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Old 07-24-2015 | 01:39 AM
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Is this our first 'hostage' of contract talks? Wonder if there's a chance we can save his job!! What a mess! This will lead to 2nd-guessing safety actions, which could cost lives in the worst cast!! I'm not happy about this AT ALL!!
Old 07-24-2015 | 03:51 AM
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Just when you thought it couldn't possibly get worse. Speechless.
Old 07-24-2015 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Hovernut
Is this our first 'hostage' of contract talks? Wonder if there's a chance we can save his job!! What a mess! This will lead to 2nd-guessing safety actions, which could cost lives in the worst cast!! I'm not happy about this AT ALL!!
I imagine that would be up to our union leadership. Everything is negotiable. Problem is that would be a side deal at the end of the process. When will that be a year, two years, three years? Meanwhile the damage to the pilot is done. Lost wages, lost professional reputation that is irrevocably damaged. Top tier pilot positions don’t allow for serious mishaps and/or disciplinary actions.

That’s the danger of working for at will, shady operations with an anti employee culture. If you don’t have a near perfect day all the time, you will be crucified. Being a captain at g4 is like the proverbial cat in the room full of rocking chairs.
Old 07-24-2015 | 12:45 PM
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So, by show of hands, who here wants to hear the ATC tapes of the VP of Flt Ops (GB) and his First Officer, the Director of Safety (MW) declaring a humiliating emergency because they're running out of fuel after flying all the way to a closed destination. Guess somebody didn't read their notams, huh?
I'm sure they'll blame "the summer heat and their demanding schedules" for failing to read the notams.
Old 07-24-2015 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LavStink
So, by show of hands, who here wants to hear the ATC tapes of the VP of Flt Ops (GB) and his First Officer, the Director of Safety (MW) declaring a humiliating emergency because they're running out of fuel after flying all the way to a closed destination. Guess somebody didn't read their notams, huh?
I'm sure they'll blame "the summer heat and their demanding schedules" for failing to read the notams.
Dude stop teasing me!
Old 07-24-2015 | 12:55 PM
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http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kfar/KFAR-Twr-Jul-23-2015-1730Z.mp3

It starts at 12:41.
Old 07-24-2015 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ValuGiant
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kfar/KFAR-Twr-Jul-23-2015-1730Z.mp3

It starts at 12:41.

And this on the day they fired a Captain who acted in the interest of safety and evacuated after reports of smoke in the cabin and smoke coming from the plane (from ARFF).
Old 07-24-2015 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Wurmy
And this on the day they fired a Captain who acted in the interest of safety and evacuated after reports of smoke in the cabin and smoke coming from the plane (from ARFF).
I hope the news picks up on this one.... They should fire themselves.
Old 07-24-2015 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ValuGiant
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kfar/KFAR-Twr-Jul-23-2015-1730Z.mp3

It starts at 12:41.
‘At the end of the day I’m just a lying, hypocritical sack of ****’. That’s old school mesa on the radio. He who lives to burn and torture pilots at will, in that joke of a position.

If that had been anyone of us worthless line pilots, we would receive no mercy. They live to berate, belittle and second-guess us to death for any of our mistakes. I wonder what consequences these two suffered any guesses?
Old 07-24-2015 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by EngFail
‘At the end of the day I’m just a lying, hypocritical sack of ****’. That’s old school mesa on the radio. He who lives to burn and torture pilots at will, in that joke of a position.

If that had been anyone of us worthless line pilots, we would receive no mercy. They live to berate, belittle and second-guess us to death for any of our mistakes. I wonder what consequences these two suffered any guesses?

Consequences? They're likely to get a bonus.


Does anyone know if the union is setting up a fund for the PIE CA? He'll likely need some help until the union can sue (if they can) or he can hire a lawyer and sue the heck of out this company. Getting fired for following the GOM.
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