Allegiant Air
02-25-2016 | 02:15 PM
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From what I've heard they will be absorbed. If they go to one of the smaller bases and that base becomes overstaffed they will tdy til people leave. It's cheaper than displacing and paying moving expenses. This comes from a chief pilot and like anything else is subject to change.
02-25-2016 | 07:26 PM
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From what I've heard they will be absorbed. If they go to one of the smaller bases and that base becomes overstaffed they will tdy til people leave. It's cheaper than displacing and paying moving expenses. This comes from a chief pilot and like anything else is subject to change.
02-25-2016 | 07:53 PM
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Just about the only reason to put up with that kind of sh*tty G4 work environment is so you can get the type rating and build hours. In the mean time you hope for something to change to make it a better place, but the upper mgmt isn't going to do anything they aren't forced to. Right now the CEO attitude is pretty much "my way or the hiway". He seems to have an endless supply of pilot applicants so isn't compelled to make any improvements.
02-25-2016 | 07:56 PM
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As you may or may not know, Republic filed for Ch11 bankruptcy today. Their CEO said this to the employees-
"We have worked for months with our stakeholders to attempt to restructure the obligations of our out-of-favor aircraft and to increase our codeshare revenues; it has increasingly become clear that this process has come to an impasse and that we can no longer afford to waste our valuable resources. Combined with our loss of revenue during the past several quarters and a decline in our liquidity, we could not allow a stalled negotiating effort to put our core business at risk."
With just a few words changed, you literally could say this very same paragraph to the people you are negotiating a new contract with.
"We have worked for months with our stakeholders to attempt to restructure the obligations of our out-of-favor aircraft and to increase our codeshare revenues; it has increasingly become clear that this process has come to an impasse and that we can no longer afford to waste our valuable resources. Combined with our loss of revenue during the past several quarters and a decline in our liquidity, we could not allow a stalled negotiating effort to put our core business at risk."
With just a few words changed, you literally could say this very same paragraph to the people you are negotiating a new contract with.
02-25-2016 | 08:00 PM
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Well regional guys believe its got to be better than their sh*tty regional. In their eyes, if its 5% better, its worth the switch. That won't last though. Allegiant simply will not survive as there will be nobody to fly the airplanes in about 5 years. Five or six years from today, there will be more major airline retirements than there are regional pilots to replace them. Things at Allegiant I'm sure will get better quick as a result, but that will be a false result. Things will go to good, than back to bad due to shrinking from the lack of pilots. Hopefully, you can find a successful merger.
02-25-2016 | 08:43 PM
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I've tried to stay off here, but I don't see the connection. AAY doesn't have obligations with codeshare partners; true, the pilots in contract issues are nearly at impass, but several items have recently been negotiated, therefore no impass; there has been no loss of revenue, as a matter of fact, AAY is still very profitable; AAY's liquidity is solid as far as I can see (no MD80 or 75 payments due); and Airbus acquisitions, as well as fairly consistent growth in staffing, fleet, new cities, etc, doesn't seem to compare with Republic to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't want to compare us with Republic, or any other commuter right now. I think we should continue to push that we are a level or two up! And make sure the company knows it when it comes to the bargaining table!
02-25-2016 | 08:47 PM
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Well regional guys believe its got to be better than their sh*tty regional. In their eyes, if its 5% better, its worth the switch. That won't last though. Allegiant simply will not survive as there will be nobody to fly the airplanes in about 5 years. Five or six years from today, there will be more major airline retirements than there are regional pilots to replace them. Things at Allegiant I'm sure will get better quick as a result, but that will be a false result. Things will go to good, than back to bad due to shrinking from the lack of pilots. Hopefully, you can find a successful merger.
02-25-2016 | 09:19 PM
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Funny how there is PSA pilot and a maintenance guy doing the most boo-hooing Allegiant this week.
Things aren't perfect, but the company is making a lot money and can continue to do so even during a future economic crash. Pilot pay is below Delta but still fairly similar to other LCCs. Higher than Atlas on the 767 for example. Plenty of 2-3 year quick upgrades making $150k++. Most G4 pilots live in base and are happy with life. No layovers, no EDCT times, weather isn't much of an issue, no megahubs, airport appreciation sits, or 11pm dinner at the hotel lobby bar.
Of course more money will be great but that will definitely come sooner or later. If you take the quick upgrade you know TDY or VBD is in the cards, if you don't like it, you can be a senior FO in most bases within 12-18 months.
Things aren't perfect, but the company is making a lot money and can continue to do so even during a future economic crash. Pilot pay is below Delta but still fairly similar to other LCCs. Higher than Atlas on the 767 for example. Plenty of 2-3 year quick upgrades making $150k++. Most G4 pilots live in base and are happy with life. No layovers, no EDCT times, weather isn't much of an issue, no megahubs, airport appreciation sits, or 11pm dinner at the hotel lobby bar.
Of course more money will be great but that will definitely come sooner or later. If you take the quick upgrade you know TDY or VBD is in the cards, if you don't like it, you can be a senior FO in most bases within 12-18 months.
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