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Old 03-28-2016 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Tyler will be along to tell you this is how all the airlines do business. Strand people at outlying airports for days on end.
Tyler says this is just like Delta, Aa, SWA etc.
Sadly, some don't regard the customer's experience as important to the continued long term success of a business. Anyone saying all airlines follow the Allegiant methodology hasn't flown much as a paying passenger on different airlines and seen how they handle it when a flight is cancelled.

When a flight is cancelled most airlines will try their best to put passengers on their next available flight that day, or even on a competitor's flight to get them on their way. Those airlines reciprocate this act of goodwill with one another, knowing it helps to make the entire flying experience better for the customers, believing that they may lose something today but will gain in the long run.

Since Allegiant often only has one flight a day from a given airport that first option isn't available, and as for the second option, they never, ever book a passenger on another airline. So people usually lose a day of travel, missing important planned events, or have to buy a last-minute ticket with another airline which is not reimbursed. That's the reason travel agents do not recommend Allegiant to business travelers, you can't rely on getting to your destination on time. Allegiant will tell you that they are for the leisure traveler whose time is flexible, but even a family going to Disney World has made plans and wants to get there on time. When you buy a ticket on a low-cost airline you expect some compromises, but getting to your destination reasonably close to the scheduled time is expected by all.

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Old 03-28-2016 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Tyler will be along to tell you this is how all the airlines do business. Strand people at outlying airports for days on end.
Tyler says this is just like Delta, Aa, SWA etc.
Maybe not DL, UAL or SW but I had the exact thing happen to me with Spirit. Flight cancelled due to maintenance and was told next flight was in 3 days. You get what you pay for, you don't like it go pay 5-10x more on one of the others. That's what I was told and they were exactly right.
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Old 03-28-2016 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Maybe not DL, UAL or SW but I had the exact thing happen to me with Spirit. Flight cancelled due to maintenance and was told next flight was in 3 days. You get what you pay for, you don't like it go pay 5-10x more on one of the others. That's what I was told and they were exactly right.
I totally agree. If you want MD80 flight controls to not be mis-rigged and cotter pins to actually be installed by competent and experienced maintenance technicians. And, for countless DOT controlled maintenance documents to not to be criminally and willfully doctored. Well then, you just need to pony up the cash. You get what you pay for.. Or not.
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Old 03-28-2016 | 02:08 PM
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Passenger fears for life during Allegiant emergency landing | WFLA.com

Just a side note, I really wish the FAA would fine people who admit to trying to make a phone in flight.
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Old 03-28-2016 | 02:47 PM
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Passenger fears for life during Allegiant emergency landing | WFLA.com

Just a side note, I really wish the FAA would fine people who admit to trying to make a phone in flight.
Statistically speaking, pilots at Allegiant probably have a higher chance of dying while flying than other pilots.

I'll bet test flights over there are a real joy.

How much is this FAA going to stand for? Once the accident occurs, they'll have to shut down the FAA like they did the CAA decades ago.
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Old 03-28-2016 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rokgpsman
Sadly, some don't regard the customer's experience as important to the continued long term success of a business. Anyone saying all airlines follow the Allegiant methodology hasn't flown much as a paying passenger on different airlines and seen how they handle it when a flight is cancelled.

When a flight is cancelled most airlines will try their best to put passengers on their next available flight that day, or even on a competitor's flight to get them on their way. Those airlines reciprocate this act of goodwill with one another, knowing it helps to make the entire flying experience better for the customers, believing that they may lose something today but will gain in the long run.

Since Allegiant often only has one flight a day from a given airport that first option isn't available, and as for the second option, they never, ever book a passenger on another airline. So people usually lose a day of travel, missing important planned events, or have to buy a last-minute ticket with another airline which is not reimbursed. That's the reason travel agents do not recommend Allegiant to business travelers, you can't rely on getting to your destination on time. Allegiant will tell you that they are for the leisure traveler whose time is flexible, but even a family going to Disney World has made plans and wants to get there on time. When you buy a ticket on a low-cost airline you expect some compromises, but getting to your destination reasonably close to the scheduled time is expected by all.
It's called interline agreements, and as far as I know, ALG interlines with no one, and probably never will because I suspect most other airlines would not want to subject their customers to the ALG experience.

SWA pioneered the concept of getting a person more cheaply than a legacy from suburban airport to suburban airport. They did so without interline agreements as well, but they have consistently invested in maintenance, reliability, and frequency so as not to have to cancel so many individual flights to places where people really have few options. If your stuck in Sanford after your Disney vacation, you have very little option after ALG cancels on you, even if you are now willing to pay.

Hey Mgmt is making bank though, and waiting for the FAA to take action is like waiting for the FBI/justice department to finally indict Hillary for her crimes. Our government is broken so it really is up to capitalistic market forces to demand the right thing. So even if it gives the industry a recurring black eye, hopefully they will lose customers and cease to operate before their corporate cheapness costs any lives.
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Old 03-28-2016 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Stok1
I totally agree. If you want MD80 flight controls to not be mis-rigged and cotter pins to actually be installed by competent and experienced maintenance technicians. And, for countless DOT controlled maintenance documents to not to be criminally and willfully doctored. Well then, you just need to pony up the cash. You get what you pay for.. Or not.
I'm not sure I follow you. Can you provide a source for the criminal actions??
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Old 03-28-2016 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
It's called interline agreements, and as far as I know, ALG interlines with no one, and probably never will because I suspect most other airlines would not want to subject their customers to the ALG experience.

SWA pioneered the concept of getting a person more cheaply than a legacy from suburban airport to suburban airport. They did so without interline agreements as well, but they have consistently invested in maintenance, reliability, and frequency so as not to have to cancel so many individual flights to places where people really have few options. If your stuck in Sanford after your Disney vacation, you have very little option after ALG cancels on you, even if you are now willing to pay.

Hey Mgmt is making bank though, and waiting for the FAA to take action is like waiting for the FBI/justice department to finally indict Hillary for her crimes. Our government is broken so it really is up to capitalistic market forces to demand the right thing. So even if it gives the industry a recurring black eye, hopefully they will lose customers and cease to operate before their corporate cheapness costs any lives.
It was actually PSA that pioneered the idea based on "intrastate" flying that you could only really do in large states like CA and TX. SWA admits it took PSAs play book and turned it into a monster airline.

It's a new breed of travelers who will travel on flying junk in a race to the bottom of the fare rates to travel.

Allegiant can't and won't ever be any different because that's their business model. They just can't say it.
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Old 03-28-2016 | 04:07 PM
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I've never seen such a bunch of drama queens. You sound like a bunch of 18 year old flight attendants.

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Old 03-28-2016 | 06:20 PM
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I'm not sure I follow you. Can you provide a source for the criminal actions??


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