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Old 10-18-2015 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Do you think mil guys get to go where ever they want when they want?
Not everywhere, but he or she might have squadron mates that can grease the skids.


Originally Posted by arouth
Hi,

I'm military with 2200 hours. I'm hoping to be an airline pilot based out of Las Vegas in about a year. I've heard from friends that Allegiant pilots are home every night? If that is true it'd be important to me bc I've spent a lot of time on the road or on crazy schedules flying in the Air Force.

I did a read through of this thread and it seems that some are and some are not, and that right now the new hires are being sent to Florida.

Any clarification on this? Also, do I have a chance at getting stationed in Las Vegas? From reading on here it seems like a pretty small chance.
Arouth, everything here is so random. Las is one of the more senior bases and being junior here is a nightmare. We have no contract, and probably won't have one for a long time. Plan for the worst, is a good g4 mentality. You will probably get tdy'd to florida for an indeterminate amount of time, first year pay and a dollar an hour per diem. While the new hires are getting put up in decent hotels, I know some tdy’s are relegated to comfort inn quality type hotels.

While we do have day trips, that is not a guaranteed constant, and there are in fact charters and a nearly non existent maintenance department that will leave you with an old under cared for dog. Leaving you stranded somewhere.

At swa your base trips including reserve are 15 days off, line bidding and the ability to move your schedule around, or drop trips. At g4 you will have none of that. And las runs junior, so you could hold it right away. Combined with pay, work rules it's a different planet.

Spirit has a decent contract with good work rules, symmetrical schedules and line bidding. From what I hear las is not so senior and is currently running 2.5 year upgrade in las. If you’re a year out, consider one of the job fairs that swa and spirit will attend. Aim high, or higher than g4.
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Old 10-18-2015 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Yeah, me too. That's why I called SW directly and scheduled my training class. Told them I didn't need to interview. I start on second year pay too. Also told them I will only do out and backs out of Orlando. I can't wait to start! GMAFB.

Do you think mil guys get to go where ever they want when they want?
Really? Really? You can hold the attitude, your not impressing or intimidating anyone. Save that junk for the RJ threads.

SWA hires a lot of mil guys and his experience is good. Sure, no guarantees, but I'm suggesting he wait or try to make connections. I don't know as much about Spirit but I'd imagine he is competitive for them also. Depending on the specifics of his military experience I'd say his odds of getting a call (especially if he has an internal rec) to be very very good! A job fair will go a long way as well.

Good Luck to the original poster.
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Old 10-18-2015 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HVYMETALDRVR
Really? Really? You can hold the attitude, your not impressing or intimidating anyone. Save that junk for the RJ threads.

SWA hires a lot of mil guys and his experience is good. Sure, no guarantees, but I'm suggesting he wait or try to make connections. I don't know as much about Spirit but I'd imagine he is competitive for them also. Depending on the specifics of his military experience I'd say his odds of getting a call (especially if he has an internal rec) to be very very good! A job fair will go a long way as well.

Good Luck to the original poster.
I'll concede to hold the attitude when those concede to stop giving advice about things they don't know about. According to your advice I would be 3 months unemployed after leaving the military, and just looking at hours (that's all that has been posted to compare against) I am more qualified. Some mil guys are beating the offers off with a stick, others still have some more work to do to get to that point and Allegiant provides that compared to a regional. Telling someone to wait for a call is no different than telling someone to leave Allegiant and wait for a better offer. Stick to providing advice about company specifics and hold off on the rest. Truce?
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Old 10-18-2015 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by arouth
Hi,

I'm military with 2200 hours. I'm hoping to be an airline pilot based out of Las Vegas in about a year. I've heard from friends that Allegiant pilots are home every night? If that is true it'd be important to me bc I've spent a lot of time on the road or on crazy schedules flying in the Air Force.

I did a read through of this thread and it seems that some are and some are not, and that right now the new hires are being sent to Florida.

Any clarification on this? Also, do I have a chance at getting stationed in Las Vegas? From reading on here it seems like a pretty small chance.
I feel your pain with the desire to be home everynight. 2200 hours is low for heavy guys but right on track if it's fighter time. If you are interested in coming here be prepared to move to any of the bases to fly anything we have. You never know what is going to come in the class drop but FL is usually a pretty consistent location. LAS went junior in my class and still left spots on the table. That's not always true but it does happen. All our trips are out and backs which means you are home every night. There are a few charters that do overnights but not many. I'm waiting for a call from a legacy or SW but honestly I don't dream of those jobs even if you live in base because you will still be gone half the month for the rest of your career. For me, I'm hoping management gets serious and we get a contract that shows they want career pilots. Go to G4pilots.com and look at the schedules and the BS presentation the company put out justifying our low pay. Basically we work harder at more challenging airports for less pay compared to our competitors. Talk to guys on the line and then decide if your still interested. 10% truth rule applies to internet forums so take that into consideration when you are reading through these. Good luck.

Edit: There are 4 LAS FO openings in this quarterly bid that was just released.
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Old 10-18-2015 | 09:19 PM
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Home every night is a false statement! If you don't live in base as a mid or better seniority capt or FO; ie, if you live more than 100 miles from base; you need a local crash pad or room you rent. Why?, because you will start early, end late in your assigned base, not necessarily where you live. In reality you will be "home" 6-7 nights per month maximum, unless you live (within 100 miles) of your base. By the way, just remember that it's not Orlando, Tampa, or Phoenix; its Sanford (45 min from Orlando on a good day); St Petersburg (yep, 30 minutes from Tampa on a good day); and Punta Gorda ( uh, 45 minutes from anywhere). Remember, as a commuter, you rely on airline schedules into the major cities; not like you choose when to arrive at your base. Anyone commuting needs to be in base on average 12-18 hrs before sign in due to major airport/airline schedules. This is not an airline that you commute in on your trip day! Therefore, home every night is only for non-new hires! A lot of G4 pilots are "home" less than 10 nights per month (that is unless you call a crash pad or room rental home). Listen to this thread. A major contract issue is schedules, as opposed to pay. Single days off are killing this airline. If the contract will provide 3-4 day off in a row guarantee; the minimums to get to G4 will instantly double. Why?, a lot of guys will stay!
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Old 10-18-2015 | 10:51 PM
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From the Allegiant website, flight cancellations for Sunday Oct 18th, rescheduled to the following day.

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Sunday October 18, 2015

We thank you for flying and choosing us here at Allegiant, where "Travel is our Deal".

Flight 222 originally scheduled to depart Bellingham, WA to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5222 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Bellingham, WA is 1:30 PM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 4:03 PM.

Flight 510 originally scheduled to depart Las Vegas, NV to Bozeman, MT on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5510 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Las Vegas is 8:00AM and arriving in Bozeman at 10:56AM.

Flight 511 originally scheduled to depart Bozeman, MT to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5511 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Bozeman, MT is 11:36 AM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 12:41 PM.

Flight 533 originally scheduled to depart Hebron, KY to Las Vegas, NV on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5533 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Hebron, KY is 11:15 AM, arriving in Las Vegas, NV at 12:25 PM.

Flight 813 originally scheduled to depart Roanoke, VA to St. Petersburg, FL on October 18, 2015 will now be operating as flight 5813 on October 19, 2015. The new scheduled time of departure out of Roanoke, VA is 7:55 PM, arriving in St. Petersburg, FL at 9:49 PM.
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Old 10-18-2015 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by crxpilot
probably will be a band cut in about 2 weeks
A cut is not likely the last 3 quarters have an average of 27% operating margin. If you use last years 3rd quarter numbers it would be 23.6% average for a one year look back which is above the 20% required to keep band 4. All quarters this year have been well above last year. 3rd last year was just 10.9% So would have to be well under that to be sent back to band 3
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Old 10-19-2015 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by crxpilot
probably will be a band cut in about 2 weeks
concessions during record profits, management's wet dream
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Old 10-19-2015 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EATME
concessions during record profits, management's wet dream
It's a dream they have nightly,
and it guides their decision-making the next day.
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Old 10-19-2015 | 09:47 AM
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Arouth, check your PMs.
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