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Old 08-07-2014, 04:55 AM
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LAX is a 747 base. The flying is almost exclusively DHL flying to Asia. The frequency of departures from LAX has greatly reduced over the past few years. This has led to the base shrinking to a little less than 40 FO's. It's quite senior except for a few more junior crew members sitting at the bottom of the base list. Those junior guys were able to make it in when the base in Seattle opened this month. Going forward, unless something changes, I don't think LAX will grow.
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:16 PM
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I have been applying every 6 months for 3 years and nothing. Now there is a base where I live so I will change that to applying every month. 8000+ TT 5000+ TPIC.

Any more ideas?
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Old 08-07-2014, 12:20 PM
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Yep, as far as I could tell every single one of us interviewing this Tuesday (8/5) had an internal rec sent in on our behalf.
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Old 08-07-2014, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
I have been applying every 6 months for 3 years and nothing. Now there is a base where I live so I will change that to applying every month. 8000+ TT 5000+ TPIC.

Any more ideas?
Same boat here, 8000tt, 5000tpic, 8 types, international experience, been applying for 3 or 4 years, nothing but crickets.
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Old 08-07-2014, 03:54 PM
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C5, Candler, etc

Wow, you guys are campaigning even on this thread?!!
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:02 PM
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C5, Candler, etc

Wow, you guys are campaigning even on this thread?!!

Those guys seem to get it! Campaign away!
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:23 PM
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The only thing I campaign for is us getting paid what we are worth and stop taking it with no lube from the company for fun. No time to fit in anything on my off days like union work when I'm gone as much as I am. 13 days off is hard to fit in all the beer I like to drink already with nothing else to do! Good luck to you if you're running though.
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DC8 Driver View Post
I agree that the Atlas business model is a more long term sustainable plan. I even understand the need for flexibility and the nature of the ACMI world. We just have nothing in our current contract that compensates us for our flexibility. I perhaps should have approached my original post a little more tact; but, after a day with 6 schedule changes in an hour, 4 rolling delays, bad catering and the preceding 7 days having to defend myself every day from illegal schedule changes, defending my basic rights under my CBA, threatened with chief pilot calls just for demanding what is provided for me in my CBA, it's really hard to have a good attitude and walk around drinking the Atlas cool aid (not saying you guys are). Things need to change here big time; I'm confident they will.
DC8...sorry for the late response...but the beaches in Waikiki were a higher priority for the last week or so!!

The issue that I have with the current discussions on the line, on our private forum, etc is that this CBA made no improvements.

That is simply not true...

1. Former Polar pilots got significant hourly rate increases,
2. Former Atlas pilots got some work-rule improvements,
3. And other improvements for both groups.

All during a process that was actually supposed to be the merging on two CBAs that were in place at the individual carriers.

Some of our junior folks (lovingly referred to as NKOTB!!) refuse to accept that the last Negotiating Committee was able to make progress (such as it is admittedly) during a process that was NOT a "Section 6" negotiation...sorry, but that is a fact. I am not gonna get into that discussion here...some of you have my personal contact info and can reach out to me for a more meaningful (and private) discussion.
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Old 08-07-2014, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 744driver View Post
DC8...sorry for the late response...but the beaches in Waikiki were a higher priority for the last week or so!!

The issue that I have with the current discussions on the line, on our private forum, etc is that this CBA made no improvements.

That is simply not true...

1. Former Polar pilots got significant hourly rate increases,
2. Former Atlas pilots got some work-rule improvements.

All during a process that was actually supposed to be the merging on two CBAs that were in place at the individual carriers.

Some of our junior folks (lovingly referred to as NKOTB!!) refuse to understand that...sorry, that is a fact. I am not gonna get into that discussion here...some of you have my personal contact info and can reach out to me for a more meaningful (and private) discussion.
Glad you made it out of Hawaii before things went downhill! I agree with what you are saying here, that is a fact. However, everyone's personal perspective is different, and that's normal. That's one reason we hear different takes on all of this. The big thing to remember is no matter what, this needs improvement and we have to be ready to fight for it.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:31 PM
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On the grass is greener subject: A poster on a thread about leaving FedEx for the majors was at a job fair lately. UAL/AA/DAL all had lines over 1.5 hours of pilots wanting to talk to the recruiters. FedEx and UPS had no lines at all.
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