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Old 09-02-2015, 04:44 AM
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FWIW, the pilot rep (1year 767 pilot)who did a great job explaining the pros and cons noted his OE had several gaps. He completed his OE/Training Pay cycle just under 4 months. What was of interest is he was averaging about 78 credit hours during his first year (remember 50 is first year contractual min vs. 62 thereafter----so budget accordingly).

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Old 09-02-2015, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tuktukdriver View Post
Wow... and with that training pay for 5-6 months and probably way more! I may have to rethink where I want to go. Can't feed a family for that long on $1600/month.
I saw that training was $1600/month until completion of IOE, is that before or after taxes, medical, etc? Also, do you get paid per diem during training on top of that training salary?
Training pay is $1600/mo gross (before taxes, insurance, etc.). Training pay ends (and first year pay starts) at the completion of OE or 4 months from DOH, whichever comes first. The 4 month rule is actually coming into play for a bunch of us right now.
You get about $1700/mo per diem while in training. This is not taxed. You only get it while actually down in MIA though. If you sit at home between sim and OE, you do not get per diem for that time.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv View Post
We have guys still waiting for OE after three months, and those classes were every other month. They cranked up to the every three weeks mode with the June class - wonder how bad it'll get?
Sounds like a serious bottleneck in the training department.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KCav8er View Post
Sounds like a serious bottleneck in the training department.
Welcome to Atlas.

When the 767 program started, we sat at home for 3 months before getting called. Even better, you get to come back for another checkride if you won't get 100 hours in 120 days. One guy in my class took 4 check rides overs 8 months before actually seeing an airplane.

At least we're consistent.
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Old 09-02-2015, 07:14 AM
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Interviewed on 8/26 as well.
Pooled on the 28th (very happy about that, can't wait to start class!)

Hoping for a class the end of Sept, heard that rumor as well. The extremely sad part is the training pay is not going to be much of a pay cut from my regional gig!! (1st year base)

3200 TT
no TPIC
8000 FE (C-5, B727)

Oh, on a side note... I've been applying since 2013 and never got a response to my emails. Don't think that means anything as they finally got in touch. I guess some do and some don't so don't be discouraged if they don't email you after you apply...
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jackal24 View Post
Training pay is $1600/mo gross (before taxes, insurance, etc.). Training pay ends (and first year pay starts) at the completion of OE or 4 months from DOH, whichever comes first. The 4 month rule is actually coming into play for a bunch of us right now.
You get about $1700/mo per diem while in training. This is not taxed. You only get it while actually down in MIA though. If you sit at home between sim and OE, you do not get per diem for that time.
Thanks for the infos
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Shibuya View Post
Thanks for the info. I fly in business all the time with LH from my base in the sandbox because our direct flights are always full, but I just realized I am using an ID90. Our particular agreement with them allows us to book business class for more €€. And it's not cheap, getting to ORD from the Gulf costs more than €300! But the food is good and plenty of Franziskaner so I can't complain

I know most Atlas guys seem to take advantage of hotel points and airline miles; anyone care to share some stories about how long it takes to earn enough points/miles to cash in to some freebies???
Been on line for about six months, 767... Getting close to Platnuim on United and approaching the 150k mile mark. I'm coming from the west coast to CVG, Plus throw in a few international business class tickets on a star alliance partner, the miles have added up quick.
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:05 AM
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I've been holding off from posting until things settled down. Next thing I know I've been here about 5 months and just had my first PT. This will likely annoy some of the high-time, already-typed pilots, but if you've read the thread you know there's no set hiring pattern.

I became aware of Atlas in 2011 when I met a classic (I think) crew in the desert. I came to this thread and fell in love with the concept.

ATP in Jan 2012 and applied that night. Nothing. Updated several times and nothing. Retired from the USAF in May 2012 and went to work as a sim instructor for Lockheed Martin.

Summer of 2014 a guy I knew from the USAF hired on with the 76. I'm pretty sure he recommended me, because Sep 30 I got the call for the test. I think another USAF guy I knew might have recommended me, but I can't remember. I took the test Oct 15 and got the phone interview on Nov 21 to interview at HDQ on Dec 3. I got the happy email on Dec 9 and the great phone call on Jan 30 for class Feb 16. I drove away April 21 and finished OE in June.

My stats, and the part where some of you are hopeful and some are annoyed:

TT: about 5000 corrected, mostly C-130
Lots of instruction and examiner time.
Last flight in a real plane to hire date: approximately three years.

If you know anyone at Atlas, even a day one new hire, I highly recommend sending them a resume and asking them to recommend you. In our class it seemed like we had nearly 100% success in getting friends the test email. Not all were hired, but I like those odds for the assessment.

Sorry for the long post. Here's a text potato:

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Old 09-03-2015, 07:31 AM
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FYI. Next interviews. Oct 6-8 MIA.
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Old 09-03-2015, 09:08 AM
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Hello all, interested in applying here, (applied a year or two ago) just had a few questions;

1. Does atlas dh you to/from work? Or do most folks jumpseat for usual commute?
(Friend at kalitta gets this so wasn't sure if thats how atlas does it)

2. Whats does a schedule look like on average for most folks? (From what I gather 17 days on)

3. Any other gotchas or things to look for?
(Current time to get past IOE? Do your monthly days get extended often?)

Appreciate the feedback !

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