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Old 09-14-2016 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TopGear
I just got the email too. Can't apply for a year.
7000 TT with 3000 Jet PIC
4 internal req's

Very strange........

Strange is an understatement.
It seems more like insanity!

You exceed their requirements and they blow you off without
Any interview, testing, Phone Call, Nothing?

Doesn't make any sense.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 04:37 PM
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That is very strange, especially since HR complains they are running out of resumes.....

My guess can only be that they think you will bounce to a major because they think you are over qualified. Still, seems strange to go to all that effort to say "TBNT"

To be honest guys, this is a fun job and I'm sure it's disappointing....but my opinion is to take it, run with it, and find something better. There is a lot of heartache here, and while you would no doubt enjoy the job, you may be able to find something better....

Just my 2 cents. Good luck
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Old 09-14-2016 | 05:23 PM
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I would agree, Crazy Canuck, but if they are rejecting low-timers like me who aren't remotely qualified to go to a major any time soon, it makes me wonder otherwise. Plus if I were hired I would actually stick around. I like international flying.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 05:25 PM
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Maybe its a ploy to blame the union for preventing people from working at Atlas. It seems we are always short, and it seems like many qualified people apply. Maybe they are too qualified; qualified enough of real job....
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Old 09-14-2016 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Duesenflieger
I would agree, Crazy Canuck, but if they are rejecting low-timers like me who aren't remotely qualified to go to a major any time soon, it makes me wonder otherwise. Plus if I were hired I would actually stick around. I like international flying.
1900tt isn't remotely qualified for this job.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 108dash3
1900tt isn't remotely qualified for this job.
Oh, I agree. I bet jumping from a piece of junk CRJ to a B747 is like going from a bicycle to a motor cycle.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 06:51 PM
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I understand the TBNT for the very low timers that don't even meet the published minimums, but the higher time guys I'm not sure what the deal is.

A friend of mine applied about 10 days ago(and didn't tell me that he had), and 2 days ago got the email for the online assessment which he passed today. A little over 10k TT, about 6k of that PIC jet, currently a 737 Captain overseas. Only 10 or so oceanic crossings. Maybe the PIC time is the kicker?
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Old 09-14-2016 | 07:34 PM
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You guys are looking at this as if a pilot is deciding whether you get to do the online assessment. As mentioned before, HR is deciding whether you make it over the first hurdle. After that, than pilots are involved in the process.

But as a couple of people keep saying over and over, you should look elsewhere.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 08:48 PM
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Just to be clear, the Union pilots that used to be very involved in helping to conduct interviews and selected pilots to work for the company have been completely pushed out of participating in the hiring process altogether.

To say the labor/management relationship here is toxic would be a huge understatement. Working at the old Northwest Airlines, with their notorious labor/management relations issues would be like working at Disney World compared to how things are now at Atlas.

IF you still want to come here, after repeated warnings otherwise, prepare to walk into the middle of a bloody war. It is a horrible work environment and getting worse by the day.
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Old 09-14-2016 | 11:50 PM
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I understand it is a horrible place to work. Reasons for me are the schedules (block of days on- block of days off), maybe based close to home. I am too old to ever see a left seat at a major, if I even would get hired there. Looking at the Delta and SWA threads it seemed 38 was about the median age, well, I passed that many moons ago. I do like long-haul stuff. Some airlines want recommendations from guys that have flown with you. Yes, many of those are at Atlas, I don't know anybody at UPS, Fedex (don't qualify because of overseas employment anyway).
I cannot afford the regionals. There is a minimum paycheck that comes with growing children and the need to build a retirement. I know first year pay sucks, but if I can break 50k then I am good.
If you think nothing can be worse than Atlas, think again. Hauling 110 tons of don't-need-to-be-declared lithium batteries from China or bringing cows and other wild life into a war zone, economy travel on the cheapest airlines via multiple stops, 2 and 3 star "hotels"...

The current state of affairs is not good. Seeing the bonuses that have been allocated to just a few, the unwillingness to negotiate a contract, heck, even trying to go back to a worse contract. Having been at several airlines that all went belly up rather quickly I am worried about Atlas' fate. Yet you never know. USAirways should have gone belly up, yet they bought America West and came above water again until AA bought them. There are a few more. So all hope is not lost...yet.

I understand now that the computer system is making the decision before hr gets involved with it, and sends the tbnt email.
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