ATI hiring through 2019
#381
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Joined APC: May 2018
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I am not talking base pay...its the screwup pay which without even trying is 5k a month on average. Or 140k a yr as in some yrs....the additional flying has already started it. Then take the d6 days and you have a month off. And the cycle repeats. We can't hire to cover the attrition yet we have increased AZ, covering 2 cities extra for DHL..add Military and the NAC we are getting all before the 4th qtr starts. It's easy to make double base and still be off. Is it really that difficult to understand? Also nobody said ATI's contract on paper was not a higher dollar amount...I said you make more at ABX. Also yes the DC is not a huge amount thank you for pointing all this out Captain Obvious. But add 19.5 to 300 or 400k it all adds up. Again I am not grandstanding ABX, I said if the idiots at ATI would have realized we all work for the same company they could have gotten alot more and really set the bar high not just gotten a newer used car.
Maybe is time for reality check.
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#382
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Walmart Cart Attendant & Janitorial Associate pay is something like $23K/year. I know it's hard to believe, but ATI is doing a lot better than that.
Some of the extra ABX pay is built on work rule inefficiency and some work rule gimmicks. Not saying that isn't gravy for pilot group -> but be interesting if long term company ends up more interested in paying folks willing to actually go fly and make the company money. New plane placements should help tell the tale.
Some of the extra ABX pay is built on work rule inefficiency and some work rule gimmicks. Not saying that isn't gravy for pilot group -> but be interesting if long term company ends up more interested in paying folks willing to actually go fly and make the company money. New plane placements should help tell the tale.
#383
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#385
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That’s rich coming from a pilot group that picked up every ounce of overtime when there brothers and sisters were on the street after furlough.
And then when they fell off the seniority list went on strike because they no longer wanted to fly over their vacations and pick up overtime...
But call ATI scabs for flying ATI airplanes on ATI routes when a strike was organized overnight with no MEC coordination.
Give me (and everyone else reading a hiring thread not about ABX) a break
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#386
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For the fo's getting interviews and job offers at ATI, what are your ballpark flight times? I'm just waiting to throw in an app once the hiring window opens again and I've got 2000tt mostly turboprop, an atp, and some international time hoping to be competitive enough for an interview invite...
#387
They are hiring from all levels of experience. 1500TT are the listed mins. If you have a great attitude and good personality, they want to hire you. Just put in an app...it also helps to have an internal rec, so get to know some guys who are already here. They take personal recs very seriously.
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#388
Walmart Cart Attendant & Janitorial Associate pay is something like $23K/year. I know it's hard to believe, but ATI is doing a lot better than that.
Some of the extra ABX pay is built on work rule inefficiency and some work rule gimmicks. Not saying that isn't gravy for pilot group -> but be interesting if long term company ends up more interested in paying folks willing to actually go fly and make the company money. New plane placements should help tell the tale.
Some of the extra ABX pay is built on work rule inefficiency and some work rule gimmicks. Not saying that isn't gravy for pilot group -> but be interesting if long term company ends up more interested in paying folks willing to actually go fly and make the company money. New plane placements should help tell the tale.
Want a real comparison. Get a firefighting job and do the same TAFB. They do get paid while sleeping/resting.
How's that pay difference looking now?
#389
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Posts: 539
Well, you need to do your TAFB times the Walmart hourly rate. The TAFB is the actual time spent away from family while at work. Flying, sitting or at the hotel, you're still away at work. Take that away at work time and multiply it by the Walmart job of choice.
Want a real comparison. Get a firefighting job and do the same TAFB. They do get paid while sleeping/resting.
How's that pay difference looking now?
Want a real comparison. Get a firefighting job and do the same TAFB. They do get paid while sleeping/resting.
How's that pay difference looking now?
Oh yes and let’s factor in upgrades. How long is it at ABX? ATIs time is falling. So a faster upgrade is more money in the pocket.
So more money in an ATI pilots pocket. That’s hurting all the pilots in this industry how? Oh and let’s not forget about QOL. Positive space, good work environment (good people on the line), strong potential for a fast upgrade (more money), and great experience if a pilot wants to go brown or purple.
Remind me again why the ATI contract is poor? Because when I dig into the numbers, I see a lot of positive things.
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