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09-05-2016 | 07:18 PM

#1791

frozensolid

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From: CPT

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trinity10536

You just proved a good point, it has happened more than once, cause yes there was many times when he was an FO and recently as the FM.
So before you speak check your facts. Wait maybe you should keep speaking cause your proving many peoples thoughts.

You and I clearly work or have worked for the same airline. Just curious what facts you'd like me check?
I simply find it inappropriate to judge people on layovers and certainly find it inappropriate to air your issues on a public forum. If you have that big of a problem with that person or how people conduct themselves on layovers take it up with that person and/or pro standards.
These threads make us look like a bunch of idiots whining like two years olds.

09-06-2016 | 02:34 AM

#1792

brn2fly1

Fly it like you stole it!

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From: 767 Captain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyleg01

When interviewing let the FM and CP know you are a drinker , the FM tells interviewees that Omni is a job with a lot of drunken parties on layovers.
Likes to laugh about it with the interviewee and the CP.
Facts: FM running up bar bills on company card.
Guess that's why I can't get hired I am a non-Drinker.
Guess I am one of the lucky ones.
Cheers FM.

Jimmy, you are a tool! Pi$$ed off because you didn't get hire so you have to try and drag down the CP and FM. During my time at Omni the CPs and FMs have taken out many new hires and recurrent classes for dinner and drinks. They had permission so get over it. It's a shame that you have to throw these BS allegations because you couldn't cut the mustard at Omni! Most of the CPs, FMs, Standards Pilots, and check airman are great people!

09-06-2016 | 10:56 AM

#1793

HeWhoRazethAll

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From: E175 FO

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Originally Posted by HeavyLift

Be ready, sometimes half of our new hires end up on the street. Training failures are high and your not an employee until you pass your PC.
Leave your self a back up plan if able.

Why would the attrition be so high? What's wrong with training over there? Or is the problem more with the quality of new hires?

09-06-2016 | 01:09 PM

#1794

Packrat

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From: 7th green

You're really asking 3 different questions here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeWhoRazethAll

Why would the attrition be so high?

In case you missed it, the Majors are hiring a lot of pilots. Couple that with Amazon Prime seeking 767 guys and there's your staff attrition.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeWhoRazethAll

What's wrong with training over there?

Nothing, IF you are willing to study and expend the effort to learn the systems/procedures the way Omni wants you to. If you won't put in the study effort, you're cutting your own throat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeWhoRazethAll

Or is the problem more with the quality of new hires?

There's an interesting question. There have been Beech 1900 guys/gals who have done well and ex-heavy jet Captains who haven't. Again, the common denominator appears to be the DETERMINATION and DEDICATION of the individuals as opposed to the quality of their background.

09-06-2016 | 06:47 PM

#1795

brn2fly1

Fly it like you stole it!

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From: 767 Captain

Quote:

Originally Posted by obob866

If and when you do leave the cute little terms like "Big Tin" at home. Sounds stupid.

Sailingbill, I wouldn't pay attention to Obob866. He is just a pi$$ed off pilot who can't seemed to get anywhere. He wants to make everyone's life miserable.

09-06-2016 | 07:25 PM

#1796

silver fleet

Sitting and scratching...

Joined: Sep 2012

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From: Upright

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packrat

Couple that with Amazon Prime seeking 767 guys and there's your staff attrition.

This is the $64,000 question. If its not Atlas, ABX, ATI, who is it????? Who is behind the Amazon Prime certificate?

09-06-2016 | 08:19 PM

#1797

brn2fly1

Fly it like you stole it!

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From: 767 Captain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trinity10536

Honolulu + FM = Trouble, but of course he was protected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trinity10536

First you have no right to dictate what a crew member does on their layovers.

I have flown with him several times as both a Captain an FO. I have spent many layovers with him all over the world. One of the most professional pilots I have ever flown with. Fleet Manager is his title but he is much more than that. He is a leader! I have watched him motivate crew members and defused confrontational situations to get the flight done in a safe and productive manner. He has done more to benefit the Omni pilot group than anyone else. I left Omni before he took over the 767 Fleet. I'm sure he would have been one of the best bosses I could have worked for.

09-07-2016 | 03:43 AM

#1798

seoceancrosser

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From: just a co-pilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyleg01

Given who those two folks are, it doesn't surprise me that that topic came up at some point during your interview. They do hire non-drinkers. While I was there, the management folks, up to and including the CEO, came out on the road several times a year with company card in hand to keep morale off the floor, stop rumors, gather intel and spread gleeful hunkie dorieness. During your several hour long interview did you not discuss compensation (or lack there of), work rules (or lack there of), retirement plan (or lack there of), benefits (or lack there of) plans on how the company plans to grow and obtain new business (or lack there of)? If not, when on your next interview you might want to ask those questions too.

09-07-2016 | 09:04 AM

#1799

HeWhoRazethAll

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From: E175 FO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Packrat

You're really asking 3 different questions here:

In case you missed it, the Majors are hiring a lot of pilots. Couple that with Amazon Prime seeking 767 guys and there's your staff attrition.

This first part of this tri-part question was more in reference to why SO many new hires wash-out. I think you answered it. I have just not really heard of a wash-out rate that high before, even in the ACMI world. (I heard IFL guys wash out a lot).

I'm guessing they want their new hires to be big boys and girls and don't hold their hands the way regionals do these days. On that note I've heard of people literally almost crashing the sim and still passing check-rides.

09-07-2016 | 01:55 PM

#1800

Packrat

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From: 7th green

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeWhoRazethAll

This first part of this tri-part question was more in reference to why SO many new hires wash-out.

I heard recently that was limited pretty much to one class. Apparently they knew better than the instructors what was satisfactory performance.

Oops.