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Old 04-07-2022, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldieJT View Post
what about monthly hours? Should you just budget for 64 Guarantee, or is MORE available if you want it?
if so what’s a good guesstimate of how many hours you could do in a month?

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yes, plan on guarantee. There is a program that has an 80 guarantee but it’s full up right now. Once you’re senior enough you can bid a few of the SEA hard lines that are 72-78 hours. It varies. In general you’ll fly 25-45 and be paid 64. You will be on short/long call reserve at hotels all over the planet. Most lines are one block of 16 days, some lines are two blocks broken up.
OT is currently available, but is best described as feast or famine most often. With the pilot shortage we seem to be losing on average 1 a week, so the OT opportunity may be more prevalent, but I’d just plan on 64. There is soft money for taking coach instead of business/first, but again I wouldn’t budget on it.
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665 View Post
yes, plan on guarantee. There is a program that has an 80 guarantee but it’s full up right now. Once you’re senior enough you can bid a few of the SEA hard lines that are 72-78 hours. It varies. In general you’ll fly 25-45 and be paid 64. You will be on short/long call reserve at hotels all over the planet. Most lines are one block of 16 days, some lines are two blocks broken up.
OT is currently available, but is best described as feast or famine most often. With the pilot shortage we seem to be losing on average 1 a week, so the OT opportunity may be more prevalent, but I’d just plan on 64. There is soft money for taking coach instead of business/first, but again I wouldn’t budget on it.

if you fly overtime while we are in contract negotiations, you are an a**hole!!
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Old 04-07-2022, 01:31 PM
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if you fly overtime while we are in contract negotiations, you are an a**hole!!
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Why is that?
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Old 04-07-2022, 03:54 PM
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Why is that?
because it helps the company and works against the pilot group as we try to get a new contract. It should be obvious unless you have never worked at a union shop.
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Old 04-07-2022, 05:06 PM
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if you fly overtime while we are in contract negotiations, you are an a**hole!!
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I’m all for the ********* pilots filling their bank accounts as much as possible on OT for that horrible first year pay at AA or UPS.
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Old 04-07-2022, 05:49 PM
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It's on. Like Donkey Kong.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:46 PM
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I’m all for the ********* pilots filling their bank accounts as much as possible on OT for that horrible first year pay at AA or UPS.
What does AA or UPS have to do with Omni? This is an Omni thread. What they do is their business, I’m only referring to Omni pilots during our current negotiations.
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Old 04-07-2022, 07:01 PM
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I’m all for the ********* pilots filling their bank accounts as much as possible on OT for that horrible first year pay at AA or UPS.
That's the silliest thing I have ever heard. Working OT on first year pay is still less than second year pay. If you're going to run yourself into the ground for $$$, at least do it on second year pay when it costs the company considerably more and actually makes a noticeable difference to your bank account.
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Old 04-07-2022, 07:35 PM
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What does AA or UPS have to do with Omni? This is an Omni thread. What they do is their business, I’m only referring to Omni pilots during our current negotiations.
We’ll, when an Omni pilot has a future class at AA or wherever that grass is greener. There seems to be a trend. Use those sick days, take that vacation, and work as much OT to fill their checking account. Thought that was obvious, but obviously I was wrong about that.
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Old 04-07-2022, 09:42 PM
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if you fly overtime while we are in contract negotiations, you are an a**hole!!
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Disagree. If you pick up OT while pilots are furloughed makes you a jerk. Coming in to fly on a strike makes you a scab. Flying the current contract negotiated by the union to pay whatever bills you have is no one's business.
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