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Old 12-25-2014 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
I feel confident saying nobody truly knows with certainty how many FOs don't meet upgrade mins. Not the union, training department, nor flight ops management. Its all estimation.
Chiefs in recurrent are saying 80-90. But most will only need a month or 2 to get it if needed. It's nothing drastic. Most of these guys will fill the upgrades for the remainder of the year.
Old 12-25-2014 | 04:48 PM
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Compass does not actually check if you have 1000. There will be pilots who upgrade without requirements being met and the only ones that will know about it, is the pilot themself. If you can get away with it, more power to you. So, very few pilots will be bypassed on upgrade. Compass uses each pilot's integrity as the sole check for meeting the upgrade requirements.
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I would guess most people wouldn't risk their certificate to upgrade early. Chief made it sound like 90 ineligible to upgrade next year. We will find out soon either way! Should be interesting.
Old 12-25-2014 | 05:09 PM
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I'd like to think no one is stupid enough to try and game the system like that.
Old 12-25-2014 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe
Chiefs in recurrent are saying 80-90. But most will only need a month or 2 to get it if needed. It's nothing drastic. Most of these guys will fill the upgrades for the remainder of the year.
The r-atp people will need more than 2 months to get it, especially if they're not LAX based. Mins - 2500 total, 1000 121. Guy comes in with 1200 and msp or dtw might take a while to get 2500.
Old 12-25-2014 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy94
Chief pilot estimated around 90. The union and the company has had us fill out sheets with airline 121 or 135 time. If it is 90, upgrade should drop below 6 months middle of next year.
Ok system chief told me he didn't know, but if he could guess said 30. Director of training said same thing. ALPA rep said they ask new hires to fill out info sheet with flight experience, but they haven't been using it to calculate upgrade mins and are also unsure how many are/will be below mins. In short, its not being tracked and nobody knows for sure.
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Originally Posted by saturn
Ok system chief told me he didn't know, but if he could guess said 30. Director of training said same thing. ALPA rep said they ask new hires to fill out info sheet with flight experience, but they haven't been using it to calculate upgrade mins and are also unsure how many are/will be below mins. In short, its not being tracked and nobody knows for sure.
30-90 sounds good to me! Plus a few will probably bypass to hold MSP. There was a few classes full of instructors earlier this year.

On another note: I heard a crew room is being constructed in SEA.
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So is Compass taking any CFI's or are they only interviewing previous 121 folks? And is the 4-year degree still a minimum?
Old 12-25-2014 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Da40Pilot
So is Compass taking any CFI's or are they only interviewing previous 121 folks? And is the 4-year degree still a minimum?
I didn't have any 121 time however I do have a 4-year degree.
Old 12-26-2014 | 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy94

On another note: I heard a crew room is being constructed in SEA.
Heard this as well and heard it opens in jan
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