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01-29-2015 | 06:53 PM
#5891
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From a certain standpoint you are correct, the company should spring for a case. But they aren't going to. They will, however certainly expect you to pay for a broken ipad. $600 is the better part of a months take home pay for a first year F/O, and an off brand plastic case can be bought on Amazon for about $20. That is pretty cheap insurance to prevent a very nasty sting.
01-29-2015 | 07:02 PM
#5892
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From: Precarious
I didn't have to sign to take responsibility for the galley cart, but I did have to sign for the Ipad. Putting a case on the ipad will likely not change the companies position that I owe $600 if I break it, but it will make that circumstance much less likely, and that is worth the $20 to me.
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01-29-2015 | 07:06 PM
#5893
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I think I am sensing sarcasm in that statement... I surely don't hope you feel that the iPad is your "investment". It is most definitely TSH's investment. Hopefully we get a proper LOA to reflect this.
01-29-2015 | 07:40 PM
#5894
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I don't want, nor do I feel it is my responsibility to buy proper protection for something I'm required to have. If something isn't worked out with the company for replacements in the event of a broken ipad; I will have to rethink a case. A new $600 ipad and FO salary don't go together, haha.
01-29-2015 | 07:41 PM
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I didn't have to sign to take responsibility for the galley cart, but I did have to sign for the Ipad. Putting a case on the ipad will likely not change the companies position that I owe $600 if I break it, but it will make that circumstance much less likely, and that is worth the $20 to me.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
01-29-2015 | 08:01 PM
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I don't expect you to get it and never will. The company could change their policy and require you to take a galley cart with you and you would decide to buy protection for it instead of questioning how dumb it is for you to pay to protect company property.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
01-29-2015 | 08:33 PM
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I don't expect you to get it and never will. The company could change their policy and require you to take a galley cart with you and you would decide to buy protection for it instead of questioning how dumb it is for you to pay to protect company property.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
I bet you would have no problem taking a $20,000 FMS and insuring it yourself if the company found a way to make it portable.
01-29-2015 | 08:57 PM
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I was told if the Ipad was damaged during normal use it was covered. example: falls off mount in the plane.
01-30-2015 | 03:54 AM
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Take it easy junior. I do get it. From a point of principal, I think there should be an LOA, company provided covers etc. From a real world we all live in stand point, shelling out $20 for a cheap case to prevent a $600 liability sounds a lot better than going without. Sure it isn't the moral high ground but not really different than what you have been doing for years. Did you carry your jepps in a good chart bag that you paid for? Did you demand that the company pay for your chart case? Why not, you were carrying around their Jepp charts. I bet your chart case cost way more than a $20 ipad cover.
The company has been supplying nice Jepp binders where you can tear and spill on those pages and not have to worry about a thing. If you have to replace them, you have the option of this thing called the internet and a crew room printer. Of course free replacement and $700 is the same thing for a first year FO.
01-30-2015 | 04:00 AM
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If that's the only protection they say they will give you, just ask yourself, what would happen if they denied my claim that it broke during normal 'use'. You have no LOA protecting you from anything.
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