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02-01-2015, 04:05 PM
#5901
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Originally Posted by barabek
I recently flew with a CA in the first "flow" group and he told me they have a class starting on March 3rd, so 20 in March. I heard something about the second group of 20 was pushed to 90 days, but not sure about that.
I know the guys in the Feb 2 flow are held 90 days
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02-01-2015, 04:10 PM
#5902
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First group got held 90 days too, they found out a couple weeks ago I guess. It's on the compass forum
02-01-2015, 04:39 PM
#5903
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Originally Posted by AluminumFoil
First group got held 90 days too, they found out a couple weeks ago I guess. It's on the compass forum
02-01-2015, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by barabek
Ok, I have old info then. It was at least month ago that I heard about the March 3rd class. So, everyone is held 90 days, huh? This means starting in April, 20 people leave each month until they're all gone...
It looks like MSP is shrinking more based on the previous bids. We're into May and they haven't back filled for any flows yet. Is that what everyone else is thinking?
02-01-2015, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
Yep, starting in April there will be 20 less a month until October and probably the few remaining by November.
It looks like MSP is shrinking more based on the previous bids. We're into May and they haven't back filled for any flows yet. Is that what everyone else is thinking?
It looks like MSP is shrinking more based on the previous bids. We're into May and they haven't back filled for any flows yet. Is that what everyone else is thinking?
Last time, when a bid came out, for a say May. The people who were leaving property for the flow would not be in the current staffing, as they wouldn't be bidding in May.
02-01-2015, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
They haven't done that out of any base yet though. I'm not sure what they are doing. We do have a different person as crew planning manager than the last time we flowed, they may be showing it differently than last time.
Last time, when a bid came out, for a say May. The people who were leaving property for the flow would not be in the current staffing, as they wouldn't be bidding in May.
Last time, when a bid came out, for a say May. The people who were leaving property for the flow would not be in the current staffing, as they wouldn't be bidding in May.
If we lose 10 MSP captains to the flow no later than early April, then they should have backfilled at least 10 captains into the base by the April bid that closed recently. Since they backfilled none, that means the base will shrink by the amount of flows that leave in early April. Same as last year. Correct?
The May bid isn't showing any backfills either which makes me believe it will shrink further.
02-01-2015, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
I'm pretty sure last year the flow pilots were still showing in the staffing numbers for the month even though they were planned to be gone by then. That is why MSP showed a lot more pilots in MSP during those months and when the month happened it actually was less by the amount that flowed.
If we lose 10 MSP captains to the flow no later than early April, then they should have backfilled at least 10 captains into the base by the April bid that closed recently. Since they backfilled none, that means the base will shrink by the amount of flows that leave in early April. Same as last year. Correct?
The May bid isn't showing any backfills either which makes me believe it will shrink further.
If we lose 10 MSP captains to the flow no later than early April, then they should have backfilled at least 10 captains into the base by the April bid that closed recently. Since they backfilled none, that means the base will shrink by the amount of flows that leave in early April. Same as last year. Correct?
The May bid isn't showing any backfills either which makes me believe it will shrink further.
May is till showing pilots that are leaving in April on the proposed staffing list for May.
Look to see if they backfill msp FO's that upgrade. That'll tell you if it is shrinking. MSP will probably always have more CA's than FO's since most training personal are CA's and don't always bid a schedule.
02-01-2015, 07:07 PM
#5908
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Are you guys already flying the 175 out of LAX? If yes, how many planes are based there?
02-01-2015, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by F2m185
Can someone post the current payscale at Compass? Not completely sure but I didn't think the payscale reflected on the APC profile of Compass was accurate. Thanks in advance
02-01-2015, 09:34 PM
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First year pay is still $25 hr though.
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