404yxl

Compass has already hired and upgraded for all the Delta flows, minus the 2-3 left in November. I keep hearing 60-70 flows to go, but the latest upgrade bid was for October, which is for the majority of the remaining flows. With about 6 more planes from AA, you are looking at no more than 30 upgrades to staff that growth. After the AA planes come online, upgrades will be for regular attrition. I'm guessing upgrades could run 5-10/month on the high end instead of the 30/month they have been doing. FO hiring will be a little higher since there will be FO attrition due to them upgrading and leaving themselves.

Ar Pilot

We only have 7 AA planes on line.

pylit4lyfe

We still have 12-14 planes to pick up for AA

bgmann

Cool. That's great news. Didn't know it was that many.

F2m185

[QUOTE=404yxl;1934342]Compass has already hired and upgraded for all the Delta flows, minus the 2-3 left in November. I keep hearing 60-70 flows to go, but the latest upgrade bid was for October, which is for the majority of the remaining flows. With about 6 more planes from AA, you are looking at no more than 30 upgrades to staff that growth. After the AA planes come online, upgrades will be for regular attrition. I'm guessing upgrades could run 5-10/month on the high end instead of the 30/month they have been doing. FO hiring will be a little higher since there will be FO attrition due to them upgrading and leaving themselves.[/QUOTE

Thought the last award only went as far as Sept. 9th upgrade class?

404yxl

As for the AA planes, I was going of a guess of what I have heard and what we would have to upgraded for. Remember, the last bid was for October, so account for the AA planes that will be online then. If 7 are flying right now, 12-14 should be online by then. Leaving only 6-8 planes to staff for future upgrade bids for November and after.

KhalReblic23

This is what they told me today on the phone when scheduling an interview ("Conservatively a year to a year and a half for upgrade"). I also have an interview scheduled for DEC at PSA so I'm trying to decide which way to go...I live in LA already so the potential at Compass is def better for QOL versus PSA's bases which will be really difficult to commute to.

I can last a few months on the FO pay at Compass, but would be gambling on the <1yr upgrade...

Rama04

The last vacancy was EFFECTIVE October. That's no mistake. Training will occur in August or September but your position is effective 10/1. It's a cost savings thing and it has NO bearing on staffing. CA pay starts at your LOE or the effective date of your upgrade award. Also, if you are MSP based and bid LAX CA, on your effective date, you require the company to provide you a hotel during training in MSP at the effective date. So, disregard the effective date, use the class date. Let's talk about the numbers:
CAs still in training and pilots already awarded CA but not in training yet= 75
CAs flowing to Delta= 65
CAs needed for AA planes still coming= 65
65+65=130-75=55
55 is 8 per week until November guarantees. That would be a December or January effective date.
AA deliveries and DL flows are concurrently happening through November. So classes through scheduled effective date 11/1 will all be 8 per week. Classes after that aren't guaranteed to be 8 per week, but they will because we are short CAs badly. Due to a training back log in the spring, a couple new hire and upgrade classes were cut. These upgrade classes need to be made up for to staff the end state fleet.
THIS DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR ATTRITION. I do not know what CPs attrition is so I can't account for it. Take your estimate and add it to staffing needed thru the end of the year.

Seahawk324

If you're on your last reserve day and your are deadheading back to your base in the morning, are you considered released 15 minutes after the plane blocks in. Or do you have to call scheduling and request it?

typical41

In that case someone has to meet you at the plane to extend your duty. If they don't do that, you are released.