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Old 12-01-2020, 04:36 PM   #21  
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I learned of one domestic airport implementing rapid testing, and the CDC wants them to somehow prevent anyone with a positive test from boarding a plane, which would for practical purposes require that the test provider notify the airline in question. There's some churn about HIPAA and privacy but I assume that will be resolved with a voluntary waiver.

After some discussion with friends, I'm thinking what might end up happening is there will be an app which will validate your vaccine status, but it could also alternatively validate a recent negative covid test... either/or, that would probably be close enough for government work.

Anti-vaxxers would still be able to do things like fly, but would just need a recent covid test. If many aspects of daily life require either a vaccine or recent test, they might have to get tested several times each week. Presumably tests would be readily available at work, school, etc and could be accessed via a common Db and app.

But I don't think that will get international pilots off the hook, we're all probably going to need the vaccine for most foriegn travel.
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I learned of one domestic airport implementing rapid testing, and the CDC wants them to somehow prevent anyone with a positive test from boarding a plane, which would for practical purposes require that the test provider notify the airline in question. There's some churn about HIPAA and privacy but I assume that will be resolved with a voluntary waiver.

After some discussion with friends, I'm thinking what might end up happening is there will be an app which will validate your vaccine status, but it could also alternatively validate a recent negative covid test... either/or, that would probably be close enough for government work.

Anti-vaxxers would still be able to do things like fly, but would just need a recent covid test. If many aspects of daily life require either a vaccine or recent test, they might have to get tested several times each week. Presumably tests would be readily available at work, school, etc and could be accessed via a common Db and app.

But I don't think that will get international pilots off the hook, we're all probably going to need the vaccine for most foriegn travel.
Those tests might be readily available but I don't think they're gonna be free in most instances when a vaccine is an option. Being an antivaxxer might be expensive.
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Those tests might be readily available but I don't think they're gonna be free in most instances when a vaccine is an option. Being an antivaxxer might be expensive.
I bet they get really cheap. Maybe not the rapid tests, but as long as you get tested routinely within a rolling periodicity it would probably be good enough if the results took a couple days... that would probably get overall statistical safety where it needs to be.

It wouldn't be forever, just until the thing fades away with most of the world vaccinated.
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I bet they get really cheap. Maybe not the rapid tests, but as long as you get tested routinely within a rolling periodicity it would probably be good enough if the results took a couple days... that would probably get overall statistical safety where it needs to be.

It wouldn't be forever, just until the thing fades away with most of the world vaccinated.
That’s basically what my flight department is doing—twice weekly testing.
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Update on vaccine passport apps...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/trave...ity-app-covid/
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Will the app validate a positive test? Should that not be the primary feature? Negative test results and vaccine status should come 2nd and 3rd...
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Will the app validate a positive test? Should that not be the primary feature? Negative test results and vaccine status should come 2nd and 3rd...
I understand the apps were initially implemented to validate a negative test... that's what's needed for travel right now.

Lack of a negative test is a no-go... whether you have covid or just didn't bother to get tested.
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Digital vaccine authentication...


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Which doesn’t address who is going to establish a standard for validity. Can it be ANY COVID vaccine? Or must it be a newer one - updated to provide protection against recent mutations? And how long is it good for? And does that vary by the particular immunization you received? And do these criteria vary by nation?

All questions that will have to be worked out before any of this can be implemented successfully. And then again we are actually going to have to get people immunized. Which isn’t going real well right now.

Just sayin’...
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Which doesn’t address who is going to establish a standard for validity. Can it be ANY COVID vaccine? Or must it be a newer one - updated to provide protection against recent mutations? And how long is it good for? And does that vary by the particular immunization you received? And do these criteria vary by nation?
That's just admin. It would nice if there was an international standard but that's probably too much to hope for. But there will probably be a handful of systems which have reciprocal recognition to cover the places most people travel to.


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All questions that will have to be worked out before any of this can be implemented successfully. And then again we are actually going to have to get people immunized. Which isn’t going real well right now.
It's going fine, considering. What did you expect with 50 states and a gazillion counties and cities... just in the US. It's a question of when, not if at this point.

Once the people who want the vaccine have it, life will get back to normal. Most people are not going to tolerate sustained government meddling in lives and economies to accommodate anti-vaxxers. Most of the later aren't really afraid of covid anyway, so they can get back to life, or not, as they choose. In CA cases are through the roof because people are just over it.
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