Vaccine Passport Thread
12-01-2020, 04:36 PM
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I learned of one domestic airport implementing rapid testing, and the CDC wants them to somehow prevent anyone with a positive test from boarding a plane, which would for practical purposes require that the test provider notify the airline in question. There's some churn about HIPAA and privacy but I assume that will be resolved with a voluntary waiver.
After some discussion with friends, I'm thinking what might end up happening is there will be an app which will validate your vaccine status, but it could also alternatively validate a recent negative covid test... either/or, that would probably be close enough for government work.
Anti-vaxxers would still be able to do things like fly, but would just need a recent covid test. If many aspects of daily life require either a vaccine or recent test, they might have to get tested several times each week. Presumably tests would be readily available at work, school, etc and could be accessed via a common Db and app.
But I don't think that will get international pilots off the hook, we're all probably going to need the vaccine for most foriegn travel.
After some discussion with friends, I'm thinking what might end up happening is there will be an app which will validate your vaccine status, but it could also alternatively validate a recent negative covid test... either/or, that would probably be close enough for government work.
Anti-vaxxers would still be able to do things like fly, but would just need a recent covid test. If many aspects of daily life require either a vaccine or recent test, they might have to get tested several times each week. Presumably tests would be readily available at work, school, etc and could be accessed via a common Db and app.
But I don't think that will get international pilots off the hook, we're all probably going to need the vaccine for most foriegn travel.
12-01-2020, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I learned of one domestic airport implementing rapid testing, and the CDC wants them to somehow prevent anyone with a positive test from boarding a plane, which would for practical purposes require that the test provider notify the airline in question. There's some churn about HIPAA and privacy but I assume that will be resolved with a voluntary waiver.
After some discussion with friends, I'm thinking what might end up happening is there will be an app which will validate your vaccine status, but it could also alternatively validate a recent negative covid test... either/or, that would probably be close enough for government work.
Anti-vaxxers would still be able to do things like fly, but would just need a recent covid test. If many aspects of daily life require either a vaccine or recent test, they might have to get tested several times each week. Presumably tests would be readily available at work, school, etc and could be accessed via a common Db and app.
But I don't think that will get international pilots off the hook, we're all probably going to need the vaccine for most foriegn travel.
After some discussion with friends, I'm thinking what might end up happening is there will be an app which will validate your vaccine status, but it could also alternatively validate a recent negative covid test... either/or, that would probably be close enough for government work.
Anti-vaxxers would still be able to do things like fly, but would just need a recent covid test. If many aspects of daily life require either a vaccine or recent test, they might have to get tested several times each week. Presumably tests would be readily available at work, school, etc and could be accessed via a common Db and app.
But I don't think that will get international pilots off the hook, we're all probably going to need the vaccine for most foriegn travel.
12-01-2020, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Those tests might be readily available but I don't think they're gonna be free in most instances when a vaccine is an option. Being an antivaxxer might be expensive.
It wouldn't be forever, just until the thing fades away with most of the world vaccinated.
12-02-2020, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I bet they get really cheap. Maybe not the rapid tests, but as long as you get tested routinely within a rolling periodicity it would probably be good enough if the results took a couple days... that would probably get overall statistical safety where it needs to be.
It wouldn't be forever, just until the thing fades away with most of the world vaccinated.
It wouldn't be forever, just until the thing fades away with most of the world vaccinated.
12-09-2020, 09:34 AM
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12-09-2020, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wornTiller
Will the app validate a positive test? Should that not be the primary feature? Negative test results and vaccine status should come 2nd and 3rd...
Lack of a negative test is a no-go... whether you have covid or just didn't bother to get tested.
01-25-2021, 09:20 AM
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01-25-2021, 10:11 AM
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Which doesn’t address who is going to establish a standard for validity. Can it be ANY COVID vaccine? Or must it be a newer one - updated to provide protection against recent mutations? And how long is it good for? And does that vary by the particular immunization you received? And do these criteria vary by nation?
All questions that will have to be worked out before any of this can be implemented successfully. And then again we are actually going to have to get people immunized. Which isn’t going real well right now.
Just sayin’...
All questions that will have to be worked out before any of this can be implemented successfully. And then again we are actually going to have to get people immunized. Which isn’t going real well right now.
Just sayin’...
01-25-2021, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Which doesn’t address who is going to establish a standard for validity. Can it be ANY COVID vaccine? Or must it be a newer one - updated to provide protection against recent mutations? And how long is it good for? And does that vary by the particular immunization you received? And do these criteria vary by nation?
Originally Posted by Excargodog
All questions that will have to be worked out before any of this can be implemented successfully. And then again we are actually going to have to get people immunized. Which isn’t going real well right now.
Once the people who want the vaccine have it, life will get back to normal. Most people are not going to tolerate sustained government meddling in lives and economies to accommodate anti-vaxxers. Most of the later aren't really afraid of covid anyway, so they can get back to life, or not, as they choose. In CA cases are through the roof because people are just over it.
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