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10-05-2020 | 07:01 AM
#531
Line Holder
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10-05-2020 | 07:02 AM
#532
seeing the country...
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,003
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From: 73N A
Instead we were told we hadn't done our part (we were first to offer and sign a deal), and the Company came to us with LOA language that would have reduced the ALV by 20%... and what's the best part? With no SILs, there are going to be a LOT of pilots on reserve. BUT the reserve guarantee is based on the ALV, so while line holders (what remaining there are) would have short lines, but at least work less, the Company offered NO reduction in reserve days or short calls. Same work for 20% less...same on call days, same short call numbers. For a LOT of people. Best part? We had to sign by Friday. Oh, yea, that's not even including the stiff arm on Section 6 for 11 months and the MBCBP for 18 months.
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10-05-2020 | 07:20 AM
#533
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 5,529
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From: UNA
The Council 20 update from March 31st said this:
Instead we were told we hadn't done our part (we were first to offer and sign a deal), and the Company came to us with LOA language that would have reduced the ALV by 20%... and what's the best part? With no SILs, there are going to be a LOT of pilots on reserve. BUT the reserve guarantee is based on the ALV, so while line holders (what remaining there are) would have short lines, but at least work less, the Company offered NO reduction in reserve days or short calls. Same work for 20% less...same on call days, same short call numbers. For a LOT of people. Best part? We had to sign by Friday. Oh, yea, that's not even including the stiff arm on Section 6 for 11 months and the MBCBP for 18 months.
Instead we were told we hadn't done our part (we were first to offer and sign a deal), and the Company came to us with LOA language that would have reduced the ALV by 20%... and what's the best part? With no SILs, there are going to be a LOT of pilots on reserve. BUT the reserve guarantee is based on the ALV, so while line holders (what remaining there are) would have short lines, but at least work less, the Company offered NO reduction in reserve days or short calls. Same work for 20% less...same on call days, same short call numbers. For a LOT of people. Best part? We had to sign by Friday. Oh, yea, that's not even including the stiff arm on Section 6 for 11 months and the MBCBP for 18 months.
10-05-2020 | 07:30 AM
#534
Banned
Joined: Sep 2016
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bro, you were chanting for months that we wouldn’t have any furloughs, would be 1.3b profitable in 2020, and many other things now proven wrong. To pretend that you see anything others don’t is laughable.
10-05-2020 | 08:17 AM
#535
Stands to be Corrected
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 323
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From: C-17 / 7ER
Ummm...we haven’t had any furloughs and there’s still a few months to make that quick $Buh-buh-buh-billion. So you’re kinda wrong for the moment. Not saying that you won’t be right in the end...but for now...WRONG.
10-05-2020 | 08:53 AM
#536
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Joined: Dec 2017
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I'd understand if your prediction was in april and we had the chance of savaging some part of the summer. With all the writedowns and renewed covid crap during the summer, I think you're way too long on those odds
10-05-2020 | 12:20 PM
#537
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Road construction signholder
Wrong in what way? The same way a car speeding towards a cliff at 100mph, 100 yards from the edge of the cliff is somehow not in danger at all, and you're "wrong" to assume so?"
10-05-2020 | 12:22 PM
#538
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Wasn't i suppose to be off the cliff falling 4 days ago? Wheres the cliff?
10-05-2020 | 12:28 PM
#539
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From: Road construction signholder
Don't know if I believe all that, but when reality ***** slaps all of us more than it already has, I prefer to have head out of the sand, rose colored glasses off, and Denial truly being just a river in Egypt.
10-05-2020 | 12:35 PM
#540
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If you ask mgmt sorts they'll tell you it has been moved 100 more yards thanks to their progressive open mindedness and working with ALPA to defer furloughs based on best guess savings from the assumption that the TA will be ratified and implemented.
Don't know if I believe all that, but when reality ***** slaps all of us more than it already has, I prefer to have head out of the sand, rose colored glasses off, and Denial truly being just a river in Egypt.
Don't know if I believe all that, but when reality ***** slaps all of us more than it already has, I prefer to have head out of the sand, rose colored glasses off, and Denial truly being just a river in Egypt.
I prepared for the worst, hoped for the best. Delta has a problem I can't fix.
