New Hire Class Drops
06-17-2022, 05:28 AM
#2281
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
Originally Posted by KnownTraveler
Hey all,
How far off am I on the following pro/con lists for a commuter (MCO to NYC)?
NYC7ER Pros:
Relative seniority - can hold a line within 18-24 months.
Possible domestic layovers at home airport.
NYC7ER Cons:
Multi-leg days.
Non-commutable trips.
Less pay than 765.
NYC765 Pros:
Pay about 13% more.
Commutable start and end times.
NYC765 Cons:
Seniority - 3-5+ years of weekend reserve.
Seems like commuting to 765 as a new hire is pretty poor QOL for not that much more pay. Am i under/over estimating the reality of anything on this list?
TIA!
How far off am I on the following pro/con lists for a commuter (MCO to NYC)?
NYC7ER Pros:
Relative seniority - can hold a line within 18-24 months.
Possible domestic layovers at home airport.
NYC7ER Cons:
Multi-leg days.
Non-commutable trips.
Less pay than 765.
NYC765 Pros:
Pay about 13% more.
Commutable start and end times.
NYC765 Cons:
Seniority - 3-5+ years of weekend reserve.
Seems like commuting to 765 as a new hire is pretty poor QOL for not that much more pay. Am i under/over estimating the reality of anything on this list?
TIA!
06-17-2022, 06:50 AM
#2282
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2022
Position: Paid to fly airplanes
Posts: 41
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
I do not think it will take 18-24 months to hold a line in NYC7ER. Maybe 6 months after OE as long as we keep hiring at this pace
some MCO layovers In NYC but I think more in ATL.
for the most part NYC 7ER trips are 1-2 legs a day. I’ve seen 3 and even 4 but most are 1-2
some MCO layovers In NYC but I think more in ATL.
for the most part NYC 7ER trips are 1-2 legs a day. I’ve seen 3 and even 4 but most are 1-2
I'm rapidly talking myself out of considering 765 above 7ER if it's available. Are there any arguments for 765 that should keep it on the table for a commuter?
Is it accurate to say that 'schedule predictability' is the biggest QOL difference between reserve and holding a line?
06-17-2022, 07:02 AM
#2283
New Hire
Joined APC: Jun 2021
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by stickpig
nyc765
nyc7er
nyc73n
nyc320
nyc220
dtw320
dtw717
atl320
atl717
sea220
don’t have specific numbers..
nyc7er
nyc73n
nyc320
nyc220
dtw320
dtw717
atl320
atl717
sea220
don’t have specific numbers..
nyc7erb - 8
nyc73nb - 8
atl320b - 6
dtw320b - 10
nyc320b - 10
nyc220b - 1
sea220b - 4
dtw717b - 2
atl717b - 2
06-17-2022, 07:12 AM
#2284
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 3,191
Originally Posted by KnownTraveler
Thanks.
I'm rapidly talking myself out of considering 765 above 7ER if it's available. Are there any arguments for 765 that should keep it on the table for a commuter?
Is it accurate to say that 'schedule predictability' is the biggest QOL difference between reserve and holding a line?
I'm rapidly talking myself out of considering 765 above 7ER if it's available. Are there any arguments for 765 that should keep it on the table for a commuter?
Is it accurate to say that 'schedule predictability' is the biggest QOL difference between reserve and holding a line?
06-17-2022, 07:15 AM
#2285
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,422
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Well, you'll be on reserve on both for a bit (obviously longer on the 765). The trips and reports and layovers should be better on the 765. If you don't like the 765,I THINK you and bid down to the 7ER in 8 months with no training. Other peeps can verify this. So, kinda a no lose proposition. IMO
06-17-2022, 07:17 AM
#2286
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,422
Originally Posted by KnownTraveler
Thanks.
I'm rapidly talking myself out of considering 765 above 7ER if it's available. Are there any arguments for 765 that should keep it on the table for a commuter?
Is it accurate to say that 'schedule predictability' is the biggest QOL difference between reserve and holding a line?
I'm rapidly talking myself out of considering 765 above 7ER if it's available. Are there any arguments for 765 that should keep it on the table for a commuter?
Is it accurate to say that 'schedule predictability' is the biggest QOL difference between reserve and holding a line?
IMO as someone who also has done a FL-NY commute, the ER would be my #1 choice.
yes schedule predictably and schedule flexibility are two big differences. Also days worked is usually lower as a lineholder. ( 17 days of reserve pays 72-80 hours, 17 days as a lineholder would pay a minimum 89:15)
Last edited by Gone Flying; 06-17-2022 at 07:55 AM.
06-17-2022, 07:29 AM
#2287
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
I'm NYC local (closest to EWR) and for the life of me still can't choose. Class in less than a month. Keep going back and forth between 73N, 7ER and 765.
Last edited by PotatoChip; 06-17-2022 at 07:42 AM.
06-17-2022, 07:39 AM
#2288
Line Holder
Joined APC: Nov 2021
Position: A320/FO
Posts: 35
Originally Posted by PotatoChip
I'm NYC (closest to EWR) and for the life of me still can't choose. Class in less than a month. Keep going back and forth between 73N, 7ER and 765.
06-17-2022, 08:05 AM
#2289
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,422
Originally Posted by PotatoChip
I'm NYC local (closest to EWR) and for the life of me still can't choose. Class in less than a month. Keep going back and forth between 73N, 7ER and 765.
just a thought
06-17-2022, 08:19 AM
#2290
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,311
Originally Posted by Gone Flying
if you have not done long haul flying before, I would be hesitant to bid the 765. If you start doing it and realize it’s not your thing the only way out for the next 2 years is to bid CA. If you bid the ER you can try Europe/SA flying and if you don’t like it bid domestic next month. this is something CAs have told me
just a thought
just a thought
Five years on the whale going round the world. The 765 flying sounds MUCH more civilized than that!
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