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Old 05-31-2022, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by burrito350 View Post
Pleasant day y'all. Just want to ask aside from the 5k a month and hotel accommodation - does one also get per diem for the 12 week new hire training? Thanks!
For sims: only if any portion your training is done outside ATL, and only for that portion.

once sims is complete you will move on to NH observation and OE. While unfortunately you will still be getting NH pay, you will get per diem for these


And NH is 1 week of indoc and 4 weeks of sims. If it takes 12 weeks, you will be spending quite a bit of that at home.

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Old 05-31-2022, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
For sims: only if any portion your training is done outside ATL, and only for that portion.

once sims is complete you will move on to NH observation and OE. While unfortunately you will still be getting NH pay, you will get per diem for these


And NH is 1 week of indoc and 4 weeks of sims. If it takes 12 weeks, you will be spending quite a bit of that at home.

welcome aboard.
That is awful. Is that really how they pay it? I expected much better.
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Old 05-31-2022, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 View Post
That is awful. Is that really how they pay it? I expected much better.
yes. $5091.20/ month until OE complete (there is a carve out if you have waited more than X days (I think 30) since your checkride but that is new.

oh and because we get paid at different intervals as hourly employees vs salaried, you will go about a month without a paycheck after OE complete.

our new hire training pay situation is horrible compared to just about every other US airline out there, but tHaT’s ThE wAy We HaVe AlWaYs DoNe It.
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Old 05-31-2022, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
For sims: only if any portion your training is done outside ATL, and only for that portion.

once sims is complete you will move on to NH observation and OE. While unfortunately you will still be getting NH pay, you will get per diem for these


And NH is 1 week of indoc and 4 weeks of sims. If it takes 12 weeks, you will be spending quite a bit of that at home.

welcome aboard.
Also, regardless of where you live or what base you’re assigned to upon completing training, you will pay Georgia income taxes on your training. It’s a windmill that many have charged with righteous indignation, but it still stands.

All sarcasm aside, welcome to Delta.
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Old 05-31-2022, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2021 View Post
That is awful. Is that really how they pay it? I expected much better.
What exactly did you expect?
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Old 05-31-2022, 03:21 PM
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What exactly did you expect?
maybe what every other legacy airline does, have their pay in NH training be the same as a line pilot in training for another plane would be.
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Old 05-31-2022, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
yes. $5091.20/ month until OE complete (there is a carve out if you have waited more than X days (I think 30) since your checkride but that is new.

oh and because we get paid at different intervals as hourly employees vs salaried, you will may go about a month without a paycheck after OE complete.

our new hire training pay situation is horrible compared to just about every other US airline out there, but tHaT’s ThE wAy We HaVe AlWaYs DoNe It.
Fixed it for you.

Depends on when you get the “OK” on your schedule after IOE Checkride.

The new hire expanded guidance pdf does a good job of explaining that transition and has a few examples.

I ensure I go over that section with my mentees after they are done with their 44X
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
Fixed it for you.

Depends on when you get the “OK” on your schedule after IOE Checkride.

The new hire expanded guidance pdf does a good job of explaining that transition and has a few examples.

I ensure I go over that section with my mentees after they are done with their 44X
it is not a guarantee, but in almost every example I have seen, it causes at least one paycheck to be crazy low.
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
maybe what every other legacy airline does, have their pay in NH training be the same as a line pilot in training for another plane would be.
I agree, but our NH shortcoming have been discussed and over discussed, complained about, railed over, and clucked to death. There has been recent improvements, also well documented.

Research is key, know what you walk into.
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Old 05-31-2022, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad View Post
I agree, but our NH shortcoming have been discussed and over discussed, complained about, railed over, and clucked to death. There has been recent improvements, also well documented.

Research is key, know what you walk into.
fair enough. I was more than a little disappointed that this was how DL did things and ALPA didn’t have any of the NH protection just about everyone else has, but I knew what I was getting into. (With the exception of the paid current/paid in arrears that usually causes a wildly low check after you switch from NH pay to flight pay)
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