Reserve for Dummies
06-13-2023 | 10:54 AM
#1131
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Two different things.
You aren't required to acknowledge the trip--but, if you don't want the VRU calling you at midnight, it behooves you to do so. That hasn't changed. The 24 hours free from contact is free from contact obligation--the company can still attempt to contact you (including one during required rest without interrupting that rest--not an FRMS guy, so there may be a nuance on that point I'm unaware of??).
None of that changes the point that your first obligation to do anything is at 0000 of your first on-call day. That obligation--whether discharged earlier or not--breaks 117 rest.
You aren't required to acknowledge the trip--but, if you don't want the VRU calling you at midnight, it behooves you to do so. That hasn't changed. The 24 hours free from contact is free from contact obligation--the company can still attempt to contact you (including one during required rest without interrupting that rest--not an FRMS guy, so there may be a nuance on that point I'm unaware of??).
None of that changes the point that your first obligation to do anything is at 0000 of your first on-call day. That obligation--whether discharged earlier or not--breaks 117 rest.
06-13-2023 | 11:02 AM
#1132
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06-13-2023 | 12:23 PM
#1133
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I think the 24 hours more comes into play when you're not coming off an X day. It can be a very powerful tool to reduce your SC obligation as well. Say on day 1 you get 1200-1900 SC. Then on day 2 you YS/get assigned a trip that reports at 1300. Scheduling must then go and adjust your day 1 SC to only be 1200-1300 in order to give you the 24 hours free of duty.
06-13-2023 | 01:50 PM
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Can one deviate from DH on reserve? Eg. The rotation I just had assigned to me has a Redeye from LAX to FLL. Following this redeye it lays over for 10:30 then has a single DH leg back to base. Can I deviate from DH on an earlier flight and be done? The next day on my schedule is a Golden Day (*).
06-13-2023 | 01:56 PM
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Can one deviate from DH on reserve? Eg. The rotation I just had assigned to me has a Redeye from LAX to FLL. Following this redeye it lays over for 10:30 then has a single DH leg back to base. Can I deviate from DH on an earlier flight and be done? The next day on my schedule is a Golden Day (*).
06-13-2023 | 02:00 PM
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06-15-2023 | 06:51 AM
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I've got a Reserve Coverage - Green Slip Question,
Today (Thursday) I start two X days before a grouping of 5 long call days that begins on Saturday.
There is a miserable 5 day that I was primed to get so I've put in for a 1 to 3 day blanket green slip starting on Friday to ensure I don't get this horrible 5 day.
Well, with reserve assignments now happening 2 days prior, this morning I find I've been assigned the evil 5 day in question. I've not yet acknowledged it as I'm currently on rest.
Does this mean i won't be eligible for any last minute green slips that come up between now and the start of the 5 day that overlap the 5 day?
Or can I still get a green slip on Friday and the payback day will drop the 5 day from my schedule?
I've a sneaky suspicion it's the former. If so this is one of the unintended consequences of the 18 hour callout. My ability to greenslip on my X days taking advantage of last minute green slips to use payback days to break up a long reserve grouping is now quite limited.
Airfix
Today (Thursday) I start two X days before a grouping of 5 long call days that begins on Saturday.
There is a miserable 5 day that I was primed to get so I've put in for a 1 to 3 day blanket green slip starting on Friday to ensure I don't get this horrible 5 day.
Well, with reserve assignments now happening 2 days prior, this morning I find I've been assigned the evil 5 day in question. I've not yet acknowledged it as I'm currently on rest.
Does this mean i won't be eligible for any last minute green slips that come up between now and the start of the 5 day that overlap the 5 day?
Or can I still get a green slip on Friday and the payback day will drop the 5 day from my schedule?
I've a sneaky suspicion it's the former. If so this is one of the unintended consequences of the 18 hour callout. My ability to greenslip on my X days taking advantage of last minute green slips to use payback days to break up a long reserve grouping is now quite limited.
Airfix
06-15-2023 | 06:52 AM
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I've got a Reserve Coverage - Green Slip Question,
Today (Thursday) I start two X days before a grouping of 5 long call days that begins on Saturday.
There is a miserable 5 day that I was primed to get so I've put in for a 1 to 3 day blanket green slip starting on Friday to ensure I don't get this horrible 5 day.
Well, with reserve assignments now happening 2 days prior, this morning I find I've been assigned the evil 5 day in question. I've not yet acknowledged it as I'm currently on rest.
Does this mean i won't be eligible for any last minute green slips that come up between now and the start of the 5 day that overlap the 5 day?
Or can I still get a green slip on Friday and the payback day will drop the 5 day from my schedule?
I've a sneaky suspicion it's the former. If so this is one of the unintended consequences of the 18 hour callout. My ability to greenslip on my X days taking advantage of last minute green slips to use payback days to break up a long reserve grouping is now quite limited.
Airfix
Today (Thursday) I start two X days before a grouping of 5 long call days that begins on Saturday.
There is a miserable 5 day that I was primed to get so I've put in for a 1 to 3 day blanket green slip starting on Friday to ensure I don't get this horrible 5 day.
Well, with reserve assignments now happening 2 days prior, this morning I find I've been assigned the evil 5 day in question. I've not yet acknowledged it as I'm currently on rest.
Does this mean i won't be eligible for any last minute green slips that come up between now and the start of the 5 day that overlap the 5 day?
Or can I still get a green slip on Friday and the payback day will drop the 5 day from my schedule?
I've a sneaky suspicion it's the former. If so this is one of the unintended consequences of the 18 hour callout. My ability to greenslip on my X days taking advantage of last minute green slips to use payback days to break up a long reserve grouping is now quite limited.
Airfix
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