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Old 05-22-2025 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
While possible, I haven’t seen anything with a 30+ hour that’s not a 5 day trip in a LONG time (red eye leg trips excluded).

I guess its highly dependent on cateogry. We have a fair amount of 3 and 4 days with 27+ hour layovers in June. Historically we've had quite a few 4 days with these layovers as well. No redeyes ever lol.
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Old 05-27-2025 | 09:23 AM
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I was just told by CS that PR days are no longer being converted to PB days when starting new calculations for PB days for a 2nd/follow on GS. As in, if you have a PR day that ends at 2am, then get another GS, the new PR time calculation adds on to the 2am rather than it being converted to a full PB day first and the calculation starting fresh.

Anyone else seen this?
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Old 05-27-2025 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
I was just told by CS that PR days are no longer being converted to PB days when starting new calculations for PB days for a 2nd/follow on GS. As in, if you have a PR day that ends at 2am, then get another GS, the new PR time calculation adds on to the 2am rather than it being converted to a full PB day first and the calculation starting fresh.

Anyone else seen this?

Ya, that's their latest interpretation du jour that goes against past practice/previous interpretation. Part of their campaign to kill as many PB days as possible. I'd do a crew assist case then a STS to the union.
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Old 05-27-2025 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
I was just told by CS that PR days are no longer being converted to PB days when starting new calculations for PB days for a 2nd/follow on GS. As in, if you have a PR day that ends at 2am, then get another GS, the new PR time calculation adds on to the 2am rather than it being converted to a full PB day first and the calculation starting fresh.

Anyone else seen this?
It’s been brought up multiple times on the scheduling FB group.
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Old 05-27-2025 | 06:06 PM
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Crew Assist is claiming that DALPA agrees with them that they have been doing this wrong all along and are just fixing the interpretation. I hope that's not true.
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Old 05-27-2025 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
Crew Assist is claiming that DALPA agrees with them that they have been doing this wrong all along and are just fixing the interpretation. I hope that's not true.
Bring this up to your reps. There is absolutely no way that DALPA agreed to this.

The company is lying. Would be nice if an injunction for status quo violations would be filed and approved by a court of law.
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Old 05-27-2025 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
Crew Assist is claiming that DALPA agrees with them that they have been doing this wrong all along and are just fixing the interpretation. I hope that's not true.
Well, I've a CSer and a Supervisor both tell me ALPA agreed to post-training interpretations in the past that were 100% not true, even after reading black-and-white chapter and verse to them. It was later reversed in my favor. I wouldn't trust anything that they 'claim'.

That said, agree with the suggestion to send a DART. The Reps need the data points.
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Old 05-31-2025 | 05:15 AM
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Was shorted today on a payback day when going from REG-RES months.

They fixed it without any fanfare when caught, but keep an eye on them to be applied correctly.

It’s been awhile since I’ve gotten a GS on reserve month, tho..

that final working day is not something where I have a “required” schedule check 12 hours before long call, right? I just go on long call starting at [for me] 515am?

or do I have a schedule check required at 515pm the day prior.. and THEN if nothing is there I’m on long call at 515am?

if it matters, this is now effectively the first day of my reserve block
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Old 05-31-2025 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NJGov
Was shorted today on a payback day when going from REG-RES months.

They fixed it without any fanfare when caught, but keep an eye on them to be applied correctly.

It’s been awhile since I’ve gotten a GS on reserve month, tho..

that final working day is not something where I have a “required” schedule check 12 hours before long call, right? I just go on long call starting at [for me] 515am?

or do I have a schedule check required at 515pm the day prior.. and THEN if nothing is there I’m on long call at 515am?

if it matters, this is now effectively the first day of my reserve block
You are never "required" to check your schedule at the 12 hour point prior to starting LC. That time is simply the latest that scheduling can assign a rotation or SC that reports between 10 and 18 hours after the start of your LC. Any such assignment does not require telephone notificatin from schuduling and it is up to the pilot to determine when and how they want to ascertain if such an assignment has been given.

A PR day is an X day that ends at a time other than midnight. If you are off/in rest for 24 hours preceeding 0515, then that is a non fly day and the early report provisions apply. Thus scheduling can assign you a SC or rotation that reports as early as 1515 (10 hours after the start of LC) as long as that assignment is made by 1715 the day prior (12 hours prior to the start of LC).
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Old 05-31-2025 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
You are never "required" to check your schedule at the 12 hour point prior to starting LC. That time is simply the latest that scheduling can assign a rotation or SC that reports between 10 and 18 hours after the start of your LC. Any such assignment does not require telephone notificatin from schuduling and it is up to the pilot to determine when and how they want to ascertain if such an assignment has been given.

A PR day is an X day that ends at a time other than midnight. If you are off/in rest for 24 hours preceeding 0515, then that is a non fly day and the early report provisions apply. Thus scheduling can assign you a SC or rotation that reports as early as 1515 (10 hours after the start of LC) as long as that assignment is made by 1715 the day prior (12 hours prior to the start of LC).
To piggyback on this 100% accurate answer. There is only one required schedule check… ever. Within 30 minutes of block in of the last segment of a rotation as a reserve. 12.G.8
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