He said it was a 1-day. So it’ll be single pay above for the value of the rotation as flown (assuming it doesn’t reroute to a 2-day).

 

In the end it didn’t matter. Very confused as to why I didn’t receive a one day today, but I think a scheds screw up and my lack of knowledge/paying attention caused it. So here is the story…..

starts with short call on Friday 0200-0800. Phone call happens about 0600 (the reroute at about 0615 but that’s another story), and I’m off to the airport. Deadhead ATL-DTW, work DTW-LAX, then I’m scheduled to layo and then deadhead on the redeye back to ATL. That’s just dumb so I deviate back to ATL and get back about 2045.

So here’s the funny part. Never paid attention to the layo length, because I wasn’t going to stay. Ended up being 9:29 rest on the rotation. I went to crash pad, there was no reason to commute home that late though I could have. Spent all day Saturday on long call wondering if I’d get tagged for a trip or short call. Just barely dodged all that, or so I thought.

So today, I’m now no longer committed to long call (last reserve day), so I try to pick up a green slip before I head home. But I don’t get anything?!? I plug a rotation into the rules auditor and it says rest less then 10hrs?? So I’m guessing I needed 30 off from the end of rotation as scheduled before being legal again???

would have been nice to know, would have come home Friday night or Saturday morning if scheds had put the required 30 on my schedule. Day and a half of my life I won’t get back. Though by not putting it on there, had they tried to tag me with a trip it would have flagged then, making me unusable for the remainder of my reserve period.

 

From 17 hours and 59 minutes down to 10 hours prior to report, you can be awarded a GS while on long call. This works because - it's too late for CS to call you out from long call (less than 18 hours to report, otherwise you could simply get it as a reserve assignment), but still enough time that you get 10 hours rest before report. It is awarded as F#1, F#2, etc as described above by Art. Once inside of 10 hours and still on LC you cannot do it. A REG pilot can accept the GS, because they are continuously on rest and will have the 10 hours by default.

You mentioned 30 hours. Doesn't sound like a 30/168 issue (without seeing your sked earlier this week). But you still need that 10 hours rest after the end of LC before you could accept a GS.

If today was your last LC day, you are automatically released at 0600 (if tomorrow is a golden X-day)
or
you may call CS at 0600 and ask to be released (if tomorrow is just a regular X-day).

If,
1) CS makes an error and does not automatically release you at 0600, or
2) you do not call and get released at 0600,

then your schedule will not show rest starting at 0600 and you will be illegal for GS until 1000 tomorrow.

To check your Reserve Rest, in iCrew:
Main Menu --> My Schedule --> press or click OK --> Display Reserve Rest Period Info (6th option down in the list)

On the following screen you should see 15JUN / xxxx (where xxxx is the time you were released, hopefully 0600 in this case)

At any rate, the earliest green you could work today would be a 1600 report. Beat feet for the fishing boat instead!

 

A couple of things. When any pilot does a last leg DH deviation, the original DH stays on their schedule for all legality purposes. So even though you got home Friday night, your rotation technically and legally didn't end until the release time of the scheduled DH on Saturday morning. For a REG pilot, that means that they cannot WS/GS another rotation that reports less than 10 hours from that release time (unless the WS/GS first duty period is DH only which does not require preceeding rest).

To add to that, for RES pilots who DDH last leg, they still are required to check their schedule within 30 minutes after the scheduled arrival time of the original DH. Scheduling can assign a rotation or SC reporting as early as 18 hours after the release time of the original DH. If no future assignment has been made or no 30 hour rest period assigned when you do that required schedule check you immediately resume LC at the release time (original DH arrival time +30 minutes). And of course any subsequent assignment requires 18 hours notification.

For any RES pilot actively on LC, they cannot get a GS awarded with less than 10 hours between award and report unless the first duty period of the rotation is DH-only, since as I said earlier a DH-only duty period has no preceeding rest requirement. A RES pilot can be legally awarded such a rotation up to and even past report time. What was said above is also correct - going into a golden X day or VAC day you are automaticaly released from LC into rest at 0600. That means that you cannot get a GS that starts with an FDP until 1600 at the earliest. If you are going into a standard X day there is no auto release from rest. Scheduling will try to assign rest starting at 1800, and a pilot can request release from LC earlier.

 

That clears up at lot. Trips were inside of 10 hrs. Yes they automatically put me in rest at 0600 this morning. I hate reserve, but it pays so well in a vacation month! I’ve got the next 3 weeks off (winning!) but of course the ocean weather is crap as far out as forecast goes.

Boat needs compounding, so there’s always that…

 

more great info, thanks!

 

YS question:

If someone is FULL but still wants to fly on their FULL RES days would a "First for Flying On On-Call Days," YS would be appropriate? Since I no longer appear on the Reserve Availability List (because I'm FULL) I'm not sure this will work.

Where does a "High Yellow" fit in the coverage ladder? I don't see it -- only a YS for flying on/interrupting X-days.

Or is the only option a GS?

 

Absolutely, yes you can YS on On Call days. In fact, it's the smarter option. You are higher on the coverage ladder, so you'd get called earlier. Just remember, no PB days (when the underlying day is a LC day, you don't get a PB regardless - one thing I think should change, btw).

High Yellow isn't a thing anymore.

 

Yes, to add to what Fangs said, you are still limited by ALV +15 limit. If you want to exceed that, you'll need to GS.

 

That's interesting.

But where is it in the coverage ladder?