Originally Posted by Cruz5350

Is it though? Pages upon pages of nonsense about when, who, and how someone should be notified about schedules seems asinine. Our contract already needs specialists to break down various sections why does it need to be more difficult than it needs to be.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

A scheduler will not call if it's placed on your schedule 12 hours prior to non fly days ending

Originally Posted by FangsF15

It needs specialists because CS is constantly “reinterpreting” things, making it more difficult to keep abreast of what’s legal and what is not. It’s almost impossible to keep up with them all. That’s on the company.

Are you are saying we should give up all notification to CNO, just to make it ‘simple’???

Originally Posted by 9easy

By the time the next PWA is in effect, we may very well be interacting with AI chatbots in crew scheduling. Talking to a human will eventually be relegated to special circumstances, like the Duty Pilot.

Originally Posted by DryClutch

Solution, we all go out and get a dataless flip phone for work use so a phone call is the only way to find out about anything.

Originally Posted by tennisguru

Scheduling is not required to call when:

1. You are assigned a rotation or SC that reports between 10 and 18 hours after the start of LC if the assignment was placed by 12 hours prior to the start of LC
2. If a rotation or SC reporting at least 18 hours from release is on your schedule when you do your required schedule check within 30 minutes of block in on your final flight of a rotation
3. If a rest period that starts immediately is on your schedule when you do your required schedule check within 30 minutes of block in on your final flight of a rotation
4. If you are on LC, when you enter PWA-mandated rest at 0600 on the last day of reserve going into a golden day off or vacation
5. If you are on SC, when you enter PWA-mandated rest at 1200 on the last day of reserve going into a golden day off or vacation
6. If you are on LC, when you enter your PWA-mandated rest up to 24 hours prior to the report of a rotation assignment
7. If you are on LC, when you enter your PWA-mandated rest 18 hours prior to the start of a SC period

Scheduling is not required to call, but can use CNO voicemail when:

8. You are actively on LC or SC at the time of CNO call, and the CNO notifies you of a future SC period

An actual scheduler MUST call you to notify you of the following (and the call MUST come while you are on a contactable status of LC or SC):

9. Any LC rotation assignment not covered under point #1 or 2.
10. EVERY SC rotation assignment (PWA 23.S.9.e). If you are assigned SC under points #1 or 2, and at that time you see SC AND a rotation during your SC window, scheduling is still required to call you once you start SC to notify you.
11. Any rest not associated with points #3-7 above. This includes when they release you into rest at 1800 going into a non-golden X day.

If you are off duty or in rest of any form (X day, vacation day, assigned rest, pre-rotation/pre-SC rest), or on a day of training (CQ, RCY, etc.) you can ignore any and all calls/CNO/voicemails from scheduling. Wait for proper notification/assignment from any of the applicable points above.

Never answer the phone when scheduling calls. Listen to the VM to see what they are trying to do, and if needed you can call them back to talk to them.

Never acknowledge any micrew/icrew notification unless you have first been properly notified.

Originally Posted by Cruz5350

Is it though? Pages upon pages of nonsense about when, who, and how someone should be notified about schedules seems asinine. Our contract already needs specialists to break down various sections why does it need to be more difficult than it needs to be.

Originally Posted by tripled

maybe I would consider electronic contact for a batch size of 2

Originally Posted by FangsF15

It needs specialists because CS is constantly “reinterpreting” things, making it more difficult to keep abreast of what’s legal and what is not. It’s almost impossible to keep up with them all. That’s on the company.

Are you are saying we should give up all notification to CNO, just to make it ‘simple’???

Originally Posted by 172skychicken

I know this is likely tongue in cheek, but does anyone seriously have a desire to go back to this? It made trip coverage so clunky and inefficient that it opened up a whole pandoras box of unintended consequences. If you don't want to be called for a trip that you can't hold, turn auto accept on. There are a ton of areas where negotiating capital could be better spent.