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#2891
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2008
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Oh man, I already forgot about that. Yeah, it wasn't just 14 hours, it was something about could they build a legal rotation that started no earlier than 14 hours to get a pilot into position. So for a next morning departure 20 hours out if there way only 1 flight left that night there still wouldn't be RR pay becuase that rotation would have to start less than 14 hours from the RR in order to cover the flight.
#2892
The best evidence of reroute pay improvement is bidding. Pre C19 senior pilots (top % that could) bid to avoid sits in ATL because you would be rerouted for no extra pay into a longer duty day with a shorter less desirable layover destination. Now pilots do everything they can to be potentially rerouted, including a complete 180 in bidding strategey because between EDP, SIT, and reroutes ATL sits are some of the most lucrative trips. You're welcome.
#2893
The best evidence of reroute pay improvement is bidding. Pre C19 senior pilots (top % that could) bid to avoid sits in ATL because you would be rerouted for no extra pay into a longer duty day with a shorter less desirable layover destination. Now pilots do everything they can to be potentially rerouted, including a complete 180 in bidding strategey because between EDP, SIT, and reroutes ATL sits are some of the most lucrative trips. You're welcome.
#2895
Thank goodness you're not involved at the MEC level because you'd be giving up contractual provisions left and right.
And while we're at it, L.4 reroute pay actually isn't THAT complicated in most circumstances. Your average line pilot who takes the time to go through the SRH and scheduling alert detailing RR pay can figure out what they are due in probably 90%+ of the cases. There will always be some really wonky stuff that takes some ALPA specialists to untangle. And I think you and I would agree that it shouldn't be necessary for us to take our own time to verify things correctly, BUT when you are dealing with a company that operates with such disregard for the PWA then we really don't have much of a choice.
And while we're at it, L.4 reroute pay actually isn't THAT complicated in most circumstances. Your average line pilot who takes the time to go through the SRH and scheduling alert detailing RR pay can figure out what they are due in probably 90%+ of the cases. There will always be some really wonky stuff that takes some ALPA specialists to untangle. And I think you and I would agree that it shouldn't be necessary for us to take our own time to verify things correctly, BUT when you are dealing with a company that operates with such disregard for the PWA then we really don't have much of a choice.
Last edited by Cruz5350; 01-14-2025 at 06:49 PM.
#2896
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
Speak for yourself myself and many others in my base do everything we can to avoid ATL. I come to work with an expectation to fly the trip as it was built that's why I bid it. I understand that things change and as a result so may the trip but I can speak of only one time that a current contract reroute was worth it and that was because it turned a 5 day into a 3 day. This attitude that everything is about making extra money is pervavsive in the industry but way worse at Delta. If you cant make it on the current rates one is doing it wrong but that's on them. This weekend was another reminder of just how awful it could be dealing with irops and reroutes but to each their own I suppose I should be overjoyed about the extra pay :/
#2897
How about we reroute you into min rest layovers for multiple nights in a row. Be careful if you call fatigued though that doesn't constitue reroute pay.
#2898
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2008
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their take on that tells you all you need to know about management.
#2899
I'm well aware of mgmt but apparently saying we can upgrade an app to operate similary to AA's for scheduling purposes makes me a mgmt shill willing to give up our contract.
#2900
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2008
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Your complaints about reroutes would be tenfold if we didn’t have the notification protections we have in our contract. Of course, pilots have to stand up for their damn selves.
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