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Old 01-15-2025 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
The company has copied the breakage model from mail in rebates. Pilots have to submit the STS (rebate form) to get the pay. Some won't and others will give up after the initial denial. I'd be curiuos what the real cost is vs the potential cost if all were paid correctly.
This is why DALPA needed to utilize C19’s full API access to feed data to an automated enforcement tool yesterday. ACE 2.0 would have enabled this, but the MEC chose to trip over dollars to save pennies.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate
The manual reroute calculations are getting old. For two pilots on the same rotation, they deny one guy's RRPY case but give the other guy several hours of RRPY. This sh!t is ridiculously frustrating.
Just heard about this from a buddy who includes his FO’s and was told they have to make their own case for it now.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
This is why DALPA needed to utilize C19’s full API access to feed data to an automated enforcement tool yesterday. ACE 2.0 would have enabled this, but the MEC chose to trip over dollars to save pennies.
STS is ours, ACE was not.

STS will have much more capability then ACE could have had
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Old 01-15-2025 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey
STS is ours, ACE was not.

STS will have much more capability then ACE could have had
Future potential of an app is like runway behind you and altitude above you. The current capabilities of ACE were worth the price of admission until STS was capable.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Future potential of an app is like runway behind you and altitude above you. The current capabilities of ACE were worth the price of admission until STS was capable.
ACE was all manual.

Well ACE 2.0 was going to have... Well it didn't
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Old 01-15-2025 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Future potential of an app is like runway behind you and altitude above you. The current capabilities of ACE were worth the price of admission until STS was capable.
I’ll just be the witch- ACE sucked.

STS is getting there. Never liked ACE from the start and 5S was a pain to send bug reports to.

I just got used to using it.

ACE was not ready for prime time in the auto features. Not sure who your contact is that thinks ACE was awesome but they didn’t use it much I would guess.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey
STS is ours, ACE was not.
The MEC turned down purchasing ACE outright for far less than they have spent ‘developing’ STS.

STS will have much more capability then ACE could have had
You sure about that?

Look this horse is dead, so not trying to ‘pull off the sc@b’. It will forever pizz me off how absolutely dirty the MEC admin did ACE. And how they lied to us about what it was capable of, and when. Auto ID was turned on as a middle finger on the way out the door, and had been available for over a year.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Just heard about this from a buddy who includes his FO’s and was told they have to make their own case for it now.
Buried in your posts are some good points. RR pay is complicated and it would be nice if it was easier to calculate. Waiting on hold for 2-3 hrs during an IROP to talk to a live scheduler is a burden.

However, if you had a rotation go from 3 to 4 days and you're not happy with the RR pay you got might want to recalculate (I know, the horror) and check the Co's work. Even the most basic RR going into another day should pay handsomely. And, I too, sometimes bid for a trip for a specific layover. It's nice to fly a trip as built. It's also nice to earn an additional 5-10 hours of pay to often do less work but not go where I bid. That's one, two, etc. less days I have to work the next month.

Being upset that it's 'hard' to make the Co follow our contactable and noncontactable provisions seems like you're missing the forest for the trees. At a previous carrier we were on a constant 10 hr leash with a Co provided device while on a layover. It was certainly easy. They sent a message at any time saying, you're going into rest now and you had to acknowledge.

Our rules protect our layover QOL and are hard fought and we should not give them up out of a desire for convience. New ideas and perspectives are good, but maybe take a minute to listen to those pilots that have been here for a bit longer than you.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
The MEC turned down purchasing ACE outright...
And there's a reason that happened.
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Old 01-15-2025 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ohaiyo
I would be rerouted every single rotation if I could be. Who gives a $hit what city I sleep in. I'm here to get paid for my time. Not to eat at one Chili's vs another.
icrew should have a check box allowing for exactly this type of volunteerism when reporting for a trip. If the capt also checks the box then to the top of the reroute volunteer list you go! Skeds could then abide by a new coverage step that says use this crew first if able. Enjoy your rrpy and the others can enjoy their planned layover. Winning.

(Yes yes of course Sked’s (or rather tracking) will want to consider downstream effects of using this volunteer crew but at least it’s another useful layer of schedule protection)
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