Reserve for Dummies
05-16-2025 | 10:37 AM
#3292
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Because you are complaining about having to do your job. And trying to justify it by giving us your version of how reserves should be used. You bid something you could barely hold figuring you would get to sit at home, being used a few times a month but turns out they actually use you.
top work, there.
05-16-2025 | 10:47 AM
#3293
Leaves Biscoff crumbs
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From: Blue Juice Taste Tester
I don't feel bad for dudes that complain about getting called once or twice a month to fly, but I also think that getting squeezed for every single day of RES even as the plug is a bit excessive.
05-16-2025 | 01:56 PM
#3294
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How should reserve pay work with respect to categories with multiple rates? Let’s say you flew 63 hours worth of pay/credit leaving 9 hours of reserve guarantee in a 72 hour month.
PWA 4.C seems to indicate that the 9 hours guarantee would be paid at the highest rate in the category and the 63 hours would also be paid at that rate (note one).
I’m looking at pay statements (didn’t break guarantee) in iCrew that show pay at the “as flown” rate and not the “highest paying aircraft model that all pilots in the pilot's category may be required to fly in the bid period.”
Is this a Crew Assist to stop the clock and then a DART to contract admin?
PWA 4.C seems to indicate that the 9 hours guarantee would be paid at the highest rate in the category and the 63 hours would also be paid at that rate (note one).
I’m looking at pay statements (didn’t break guarantee) in iCrew that show pay at the “as flown” rate and not the “highest paying aircraft model that all pilots in the pilot's category may be required to fly in the bid period.”
Is this a Crew Assist to stop the clock and then a DART to contract admin?
05-16-2025 | 03:40 PM
#3295
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
How should reserve pay work with respect to categories with multiple rates? Let’s say you flew 63 hours worth of pay/credit leaving 9 hours of reserve guarantee in a 72 hour month.
PWA 4.C seems to indicate that the 9 hours guarantee would be paid at the highest rate in the category and the 63 hours would also be paid at that rate (note one).
I’m looking at pay statements (didn’t break guarantee) in iCrew that show pay at the “as flown” rate and not the “highest paying aircraft model that all pilots in the pilot's category may be required to fly in the bid period.”
Is this a Crew Assist to stop the clock and then a DART to contract admin?
PWA 4.C seems to indicate that the 9 hours guarantee would be paid at the highest rate in the category and the 63 hours would also be paid at that rate (note one).
I’m looking at pay statements (didn’t break guarantee) in iCrew that show pay at the “as flown” rate and not the “highest paying aircraft model that all pilots in the pilot's category may be required to fly in the bid period.”
Is this a Crew Assist to stop the clock and then a DART to contract admin?
05-16-2025 | 03:40 PM
#3296
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How should reserve pay work with respect to categories with multiple rates? Let’s say you flew 63 hours worth of pay/credit leaving 9 hours of reserve guarantee in a 72 hour month.
PWA 4.C seems to indicate that the 9 hours guarantee would be paid at the highest rate in the category and the 63 hours would also be paid at that rate (note one).
I’m looking at pay statements (didn’t break guarantee) in iCrew that show pay at the “as flown” rate and not the “highest paying aircraft model that all pilots in the pilot's category may be required to fly in the bid period.”
Is this a Crew Assist to stop the clock and then a DART to contract admin?
PWA 4.C seems to indicate that the 9 hours guarantee would be paid at the highest rate in the category and the 63 hours would also be paid at that rate (note one).
I’m looking at pay statements (didn’t break guarantee) in iCrew that show pay at the “as flown” rate and not the “highest paying aircraft model that all pilots in the pilot's category may be required to fly in the bid period.”
Is this a Crew Assist to stop the clock and then a DART to contract admin?
The pay statement shows getting paid at the as flown rate, but when you get down to the last line (res guarantee), and you type D in the box and press enter to get the detail screen, they start with the res guarantee and subtract the as flown pay and you get paid the rest (including the missing dollars) as “guarantee due”.
What a hot mess of trying to check.
05-16-2025 | 05:04 PM
#3297
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I think it’s good for people to see the contrasting realities of reserve depending on plane, seat, base, time of year, etc.
Yes you can get slammed on reserve but to the posters point, you’re supposed to be in “reserve”. Meaning if everything goes fine your category should be staffed properly and reserves fill in the gaps for sick calls and occasional IROPs.
You shouldn’t be getting assigned one out of five 4 day trips two days out that have been sitting in open time for the whole month, along with 100 other trips. This is how it was when I first upgraded on the ER a few years ago.
JMHO
Yes you can get slammed on reserve but to the posters point, you’re supposed to be in “reserve”. Meaning if everything goes fine your category should be staffed properly and reserves fill in the gaps for sick calls and occasional IROPs.
You shouldn’t be getting assigned one out of five 4 day trips two days out that have been sitting in open time for the whole month, along with 100 other trips. This is how it was when I first upgraded on the ER a few years ago.
JMHO
It's not just about sick calls or IROPS. Sure staffing matters, but if REG pilots are all dropping to the the maximum extent possible, the RSV pilots will get used.
05-17-2025 | 04:43 AM
#3298
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It isn't just about staffing. Some REG pilots just want to drop as much of their schedule as they can, and pickup "good stuff" (i.e. broken trips.) Those bid-package dropped trips that never get picked up go to RSV. The RSV staffing formula for trip drops make this possible.
It's not just about sick calls or IROPS. Sure staffing matters, but if REG pilots are all dropping to the the maximum extent possible, the RSV pilots will get used.
It's not just about sick calls or IROPS. Sure staffing matters, but if REG pilots are all dropping to the the maximum extent possible, the RSV pilots will get used.
Ya, it's one of the reasons I'm going back to a line for the summer. Way too much stuff getting dropped (I'll be doing the same) and I mostly don't care to fly bid back trips. If they would just build trips worth keeping, so many wouldn't get dropped into open time lol. At least in my category, I don't know why they even build 5 day trips (or at all...we're the only Legacy that builds them domestically), they all seem to just get sicked out of and end up getting flown by reserves. I can't imagine why no one wants to fly that 16+ leg 5-day lol. I know that some commuters say they love them, but I wonder what the % of them that actually get flown by the bidder. One just dropped into open time this morning on a sick call, as did one yesterday....and a few days before.
05-17-2025 | 07:37 PM
#3299
Flap Canoe TicTacToe Ref
Joined: Jun 2011
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From: answering SELCAL, CH-AD
I don't know why they even build 5 day trips (or at all...we're the only Legacy that builds them domestically), they all seem to just get sicked out of and end up getting flown by reserves. I can't imagine why no one wants to fly that 16+ leg 5-day lol. I know that some commuters say they love them, but I wonder what the % of them that actually get flown by the bidder. One just dropped into open time this morning on a sick call, as did one yesterday....and a few days before.
* 5 day trips happen to use up a lot of sick time all at once...
* open time is chock full of dropped garbage pairings...
* 'tis the season for sick calls, as everyone knows...
* that MiCrew swipe left never felt so good....
And when it doesn't get covered (due to SC-a-palooza, etc), somebody, somewhere, ends up with a 5 day green
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