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Old 08-22-2025 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
The only auto-rest at 0600 is if you are going into a golden X day or a vacation day. A REG day off does not fit either one of those definitions.

As an alternative strategy, look at working a RES spillover rotation into REG days off. That pays double pay on the REG days, like a GS. RES Spillover rotations are all proffers and that step of coverage is before GS, so even if you've already had one more more GS in the RES month you can grab more premium pay before anyone wanting a GS gets a shot at it. Pay on the LC day(s) pays towards RES guarantee, so make sure to pick a trip that places most of the block/credit in the REG month.

You can only do a RES spillover rotation from LC days to REG days off. You cannot do it from X days to REG days off. The rotation must report on a LC day.
Do you need to meet the GS trigger for the spillover portion to pay double?
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Old 08-22-2025 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by icohftb
Do you need to meet the GS trigger for the spillover portion to pay double?
Yes, each month must exceed the GS trigger for that month’s credit to double.

Remember, you can take up to 5:00 from the bank in a month with a GS. Highly recommended.
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Old 08-22-2025 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Yes, each month must exceed the GS trigger for that month’s credit to double.

Remember, you can take up to 5:00 from the bank in a month with a GS. Highly recommended.
Is that actually true about a reserve spillover rotation (what the OP is asking about?) 23.G.10 makes no qualification for meeting the GS trigger in order to earn single pay, no credit for the portion of the rotation that interrupts their REG days off. A reserve spillover is not a GS, so I’d argue that just like an IA it is not subject to the GS trigger.
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Old 08-22-2025 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Is that actually true about a reserve spillover rotation (what the OP is asking about?) 23.G.10 makes no qualification for meeting the GS trigger in order to earn single pay, no credit for the portion of the rotation that interrupts their REG days off. A reserve spillover is not a GS, so I’d argue that just like an IA it is not subject to the GS trigger.
Reserve spillover trips go towards guarantee and do not move you towards the trigger. That's why it's generally a bad idea to spill a trip from line to reserve.
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Old 08-22-2025 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RunFast
Had scheduled rest put on 17 September to only have it removed this morning. 🤷‍♂️
Did 17 Sept go from Blue to Black between the 15th and 19th. In some categories preposted rest serves to reduce the number of reserves available and block x-day moves and drops during the first few PCS runs. Preposted rest shouldn't be allowed until reserve trip coverage begins for the month.
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Old 08-22-2025 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RunFast
Been using JFB’s reserve pay sheet to see what my hours will be for September but it doesn’t match my timecard. I know, I can’t believe the TC isn’t super transparent. 😏 Anyhow, I have 74:03 ALV, 13 hours carry-in credit (not a factor), 10 days of vacation, 3 days of CQ and I used 3 IVDs. Depending on where I put the 3 IVDs in the JFB formula (“vacation days” or “replacement days”), I get two different answers and neither match the timecard in icrew. Any thoughts? How are IVDs handled in JFB (should be replacement days I think)? Gracias.
If you used 3 IVDs, at the bottom you'll have to show 3 dropped days, then 3 replaced days as well. Usually it's a little higher then reserve guarante without dropping any days. That should get you to line up.
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Old 08-22-2025 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RunFast
Been using JFB’s reserve pay sheet to see what my hours will be for September but it doesn’t match my timecard. I know, I can’t believe the TC isn’t super transparent. 😏 Anyhow, I have 74:03 ALV, 13 hours carry-in credit (not a factor), 10 days of vacation, 3 days of CQ and I used 3 IVDs. Depending on where I put the 3 IVDs in the JFB formula (“vacation days” or “replacement days”), I get two different answers and neither match the timecard in icrew. Any thoughts? How are IVDs handled in JFB (should be replacement days I think)? Gracias.
Assuming you put the IVD's over reserve days that you dropped, I get:

103:42 if you don't have an extra X day for 20% reserve staffing.
102:54 if you do.

Hard to tell if your timecard is wrong if we don't know what your timecard says, or if you IVD over reserve vs X days (or some combination of the 2.)
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Old 08-22-2025 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Verdell
Assuming you put the IVD's over reserve days that you dropped, I get:

103:42 if you don't have an extra X day for 20% reserve staffing.
102:54 if you do.

Hard to tell if your timecard is wrong if we don't know what your timecard says, or if you IVD over reserve vs X days (or some combination of the 2.)
...IVD over X days?
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Old 08-22-2025 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Is that actually true about a reserve spillover rotation (what the OP is asking about?) 23.G.10 makes no qualification for meeting the GS trigger in order to earn single pay, no credit for the portion of the rotation that interrupts their REG days off. A reserve spillover is not a GS, so I’d argue that just like an IA it is not subject to the GS trigger.
Ahhh, dang it . RTFQ. Or, at least, the thread title... Oops, disregard - I'm slipping...

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Old 08-22-2025 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by icohftb
Do you need to meet the GS trigger for the spillover portion to pay double?
No. I do this almost 6 months a year if I can make it work with my personal life.

PWA Implementation Guide

Section 4.E.2 (drop)

Section 23.G.10 (no drop)

Section 23.N.10 (no drop)

Section 23.N.14 (drop)

SRH pg 105

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