You might want to take a look at PWA 23.S.1.d which states:

"be required to check their schedule via DBMS or VRU after block-in of the last flight segment of their rotation prior to their release".

 

DBMS is iCrew?

Also, what does DBMS stand for?

 

Yes, iCrew.

Probably DataBase Management System

Also, not sure why anyone uses MiCrew and pretends like it protects them from official schedule changes. Seriously - if you see nothing on your MiCrew and no show a long call rotation 18 hours after release, it’ll be tough to defend.

 

You're asking a question in PWA language. The layman's term answer lies in Scheduling Reference Handbook (SRH) language.

SRH pg 92:

"Reserve pilots are required to check their schedule via iCrew or the IVR prior to release of their rotation."

The better question is WTF is IVR, is that VRU?

 

What is IVR? Interactive voice response (IVR) is an automated telephone system technology that enables callers to receive, provide information or make requests by using voice or menu inputs. It allows them to complete these tasks without speaking to a virtual agent.

Learned something today 😂

 

OK, you made me look up VRU, which is defined in the PWA.

VRU - Voice Response Unit

But you had to outsource your definition so neenerneener.

 

I can't speak for anyone else but in my few years working here I almost never touch iCrew unless I'm updating a slip. Even on reserve I've always relied solely on Micrew. Am I in the wrong? Ok yes. But, has anyone every experienced iCrew and MiCrew showing different things? Because I've never once seen it be wrong. Had anyone here actually been burned by a discrepancy between iCrew and MiCrew?

 

I haven’t been burned, but I have seen a different hotel in iCrew and MiCrew. MiCrew listed the long layover hotel and iCrew listed the short layover hotel.

It was a delayed flight and we were at 10 hours rest. Walking to the curb we checked MiCrew to see the long layover hotel and took a van to a hotel when we could have walked to the airport hotel.

Thought we were in the right place until we got to the check-in desk and the hotel said they weren’t seeing our rooms. They got rooms for us and I looked on iCrew and saw it was different from MiCrew.

We were never notified of a change, never got a call or an ACARS.

The real stinker was that the week earlier the same exact thing happened and I proactively asked for the airport hotel. Accommodations never responded, and didn’t make a change and we ended up going to the long hotel. This time I didn’t even bother to ask and they changed it and didn’t let us know, and didn’t update MiCrew.

I’m not checking iCrew on the way to the layover.

 

I’ve had rest assigned that has a notification in icrew but none in MiCrew.

 

Ok, that's useful. I'll keep an eye out for that. Coincidentally I'm on my last day of reserve and I'm wondering why they never assigned rest since they can't use me for the rest of the day. I've checked both.