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Old 04-07-2026 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
IA is not the last step in the trip coverage ladder(s)… as I pointed out.

At least the IA step you’re familiar with. They’re not calling “all available qualified pilots” (systemwide)… they’re calling only B E S.
I don’t have my PWA handy but I thought the last step was any pilot, in position, in inverse seniority order. Never did I think IA involved calling every pilot systemwide.
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Old 04-07-2026 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GutterGuard
I've gotten reserve "with conflict" trips without a GS with conflict slip in. Get an ARCOS GS call that nukes a future reserve assignment. It's not technically a reserve with conflict, just scheduling ineptitude.
There is no GSWC for a reservist. The GS is able to wipe out an assignment if it is a day earlier, as CBreezy explained:
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It's always been this way. One of the greatest scheduling tools to get rid of a bad reserve assignment is to accept a GS for one day earlier.
RWC is an entirely different animal. It's CS robbing Peter to pay Paul. They have a trip in open time that is more urgent than the one that you currently have on your reserve line. You credit of the greater of the 2 trips (not that credit matters unless you fill up). There are no PB days, and no pay above guarantee. But there is a chance to be (ab)used less on LC days. Utivich, you make that deal?

Recently I got assigned a crappy 3-day trip, about 1+ day in advance. I had a blanket RWC slip in. Some time later, (once inside the 24 hours to report), I got a live call from a scheduler with a proffer to replace that trip, (Reserve with Conflict) with an easier 2-day.

Waste more LC days and work less?

Damn good deal
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Old 04-07-2026 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by demon llama
I don’t have my PWA handy but I thought the last step was any pilot, in position, in inverse seniority order. Never did I think IA involved calling every pilot systemwide.
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211. “Position” means the combination of a pilot’s aircraft type and status.

last step on 23N ladder:
34. Available qualified pilots (in position, in inverse seniority order)

So the final step is system (position) wide. Inverse assignments that you are actually being called for are prior to GSWC in the PWA.
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Old 04-08-2026 | 03:28 AM
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This preposted rest is really ****ing me off.

Second time in 2 weeks Ive been schwacked with a crap trip with junior pilots 30/168 legal, no SAQ/TQ issues, no low time FOs, because it touched their preposted rest.

Yet they've also assigned trips where they've cancelled my pre posted rest because I was (barely) 30/168 legal.

One of the guys has IDENTICAL work days and its just where they decided to pre post rest that got me. I was RAW 3 and senior to guys in RAW 1 with preposted rest.
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Old 04-08-2026 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by demon llama
I don’t have my PWA handy but I thought the last step was any pilot, in position, in inverse seniority order. Never did I think IA involved calling every pilot systemwide.
Don’t need your iPad…straight from the DALPA site.

https://dal.alpa.org/Portals/1/Docum...e-contract.pdf
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Old 04-08-2026 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
They are NOT allowed to skip. Many years ago, I called them out for skipping GSWC. They just started the process over. After I called, they magically went back and I got the call for GSWC. Schedulers going off script and doing whatever they want is not a new phenomenon.
They can if they invoke 23M7
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Old 04-08-2026 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by GutterGuard
I've gotten reserve "with conflict" trips without a GS with conflict slip in. Get an ARCOS GS call that nukes a future reserve assignment. It's not technically a reserve with conflict, just scheduling ineptitude.
This is actually scheduling getting it correct. The PWA requires them to drop a RES future-day assignment for a same-day GS award. PWA 23.Q.6.c.Exception:

"Exception: A GS for a same-day, next day rotation by a pilot who will be a reserve pilot on the next day will be processed without regard to their reserve award/assignment for the next day or second day."

GS/QS can be a very useful tool to get out of a nasty RES assignment on the following day(s).
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Old 04-08-2026 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
This preposted rest is really ****ing me off.

Second time in 2 weeks Ive been schwacked with a crap trip with junior pilots 30/168 legal, no SAQ/TQ issues, no low time FOs, because it touched their preposted rest.

Yet they've also assigned trips where they've cancelled my pre posted rest because I was (barely) 30/168 legal.

One of the guys has IDENTICAL work days and its just where they decided to pre post rest that got me. I was RAW 3 and senior to guys in RAW 1 with preposted rest.
Definitely requires a new bidding strategy and enhanced focus on bidding Golden Days properly.
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Old 04-08-2026 | 09:49 AM
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And now they yanked it and gave me Short Call.
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Old 04-08-2026 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
And now they yanked it and gave me Short Call.
It all ****es me off, too, but this part of it as much as anything else. THey give you rest, you acknowledge it, but then they just snatch it when it suits them. It's a bait and switch that is very fatiguing (and I mean that seriously)
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