Reserve for Dummies
#5051
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From: B737 FO
Am I missing something? Been trying to do a reserve with conflict for a trip tomorrow that has been in open time almost all day. From what I’ve read, it’s a proffer, so I will probably get the call for it after I’ve gone to bed. This makes no sense and is borderline unsafe if they’re counting on people just responding in the middle of the night. This needs to stop.
#5053
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#5054
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From: Pilot
1. Coverage runs some/all/none through the “standard” early steps of the coverage ladder, then scheduling skips to QS within 8 hours.
2. Coverage runs through the “standard” steps, but stops before reaching the really desperate stuff (mainly GSWC). With no pilots to take the trip scheduling then starts chopping up the trip and starting over. Then they’ll either reach the point of skipping coverage in bullet 1.
In either case, if they get so close in and have a pilot available for reroute then they will do so. That of course robs Peter to pay Paul, so the newly uncovered legs go through the same process again. Eventually with no takers and no reroutes left they have to cancel flights.
#5055
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so GSWC is very near to the last step in the ladder
#5056
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They are NOT allowed to skip. Many years ago, I called them out for skipping GSWC. They just started the process over. After I called, they magically went back and I got the call for GSWC. Schedulers going off script and doing whatever they want is not a new phenomenon.
#5057
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just for your edification, N ladder shows GS, instructor green slip, OBGS, RWC, reroute, quick slip, then a bunch of IA steps (SC, LC, REG, x day w conf), then GSWC, OBGSWC, reg IAWC, then all available qualified pilots.
so GSWC is very near to the last step in the ladder
so GSWC is very near to the last step in the ladder
#5058
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At least the IA step you’re familiar with. They’re not calling “all available qualified pilots” (systemwide)… they’re calling only B E S.
#5059
I've gotten reserve "with conflict" trips without a GS with conflict slip in. Get an ARCOS GS call that nukes a future reserve assignment. It's not technically a reserve with conflict, just scheduling ineptitude.
#5060
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