Any details on whats illegal about it?

 

First DP ends 16+ hours after start of SC which I believe is a hard stop even if it’s a DH?

 

FDP is limited by 16 hours max using all the RAP math. I think PWA max is 17 hours ending in a DH. Check sec 12.

 

ok. But let’s just say it’s illegal. The question is when to bring it to their attention? Before SC begins? After? After report?

if before sc they’ll just eliminate the sc or fix the rotation, right or will they just take it off? After sc but before report then they are stuck with my rap and maybe still just fix the rotation? After report then if they fix it, it’s reroute pay. Does this jive with the hive?

 

If you're inside 18 hours from the rotation, they can't just remove the SC but keep the trip, since you wouldn't have 18 hours from notification at that point. The SC is needed to assign the rotation inside 18 hours to report.

 

Weird edge case reserve question…

- Legally converted to a 1100-1700/Day A short call. I invoke 2hr non-contactable to facilitate my commute which would mean I am not contactable until 1300/Day A (or I check schedule/tell scheduling).
- ⁠During my 2 hour non-contactable period (1230/Day A) upon arriving at my base, I officially check my schedule and see a trip reporting at 0620/Day B along with several missed calls/voicemails from 1110ish regarding this trip.
- ⁠At this point, it was less than 18 hours to report from when I checked my schedule and scheduling had terminated my SC at 1220 (while I was non-contactable) to fulfill the 18 hour duty free requirement.
- ⁠Was that a legal assignment? I feel like the grey area centers around the phrase, “During their period of unavailability, the pilot assumes responsibility for acknowledging any rotation placed on their line.”

Resolution - I called scheduling and asked them about it. My main point was that they ended my SC at the required time but did so without my knowledge since I was non-contactable and therefore couldn’t know until the time had already passed. Scheduler talked to supervisor and they removed the rotation. But I’m not sure if I just got lucky or if this is the correct answer.

 

That is an interesting edge case. I agree with the supervisor. You must have at least 18 hours from first attempted contact before an assignment. Since you were unconnectable until inside those 18 hours when they tried to assign the trip, I don't think it would be legal.

 

Watching the daily trip coverage is painnnnful today. Been on SC for the first time in a while. I had a YS in for a 4-day I was perfect for. Rather than assigning it to me They busted it up in to two days and now a Frankenstein of 1-day rotations and they just keep going in and out of coverage as the WS process plays out. Going on for hours now.

I would rather have had the 4-day and they would have had it covered. Now it will inevitably go to IA /RR as we get inside of 60 minutes to report. Pure stupidity

 

Welcome to the "reserve is so close to being great, but it's not" club.

 

Depends on the category. Reserve has been so glorious the last 2 years on the ER A side in NYC I was pinching myself on the ski slopes today.