Reserve for Dummies

Reply Subscribe

Page 460 of 527

460

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

01-17-2026 | 04:45 AM

#4591

tennisguru

Roll’n Thunder

Joined: Oct 2009

Posts: 5,150

Likes: 562

From: Pilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by DryClutch

Yea I figured I maybe hosed us. I mean probably would have gotten RR via ACARS but still. We had fun blaming me for it.

icrew is only legal notification for a single pilot. There are lots of times where one pilot gets RR and the other doesn't. So the other pilot would still have been required to get some form of notification of their RR.

01-17-2026 | 05:13 AM

#4592

DryClutch

Line Holder

Joined: Feb 2016

Posts: 525

Likes: 25

From: 320

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisguru

So we were hashing this scenario out at cruise, in the SRH, When Have You Been Contacted, language reads "A pilot voluntarily responds to a RR notification and notifies their flying partner. A response is required, the flying partner became officially notified of the RR as pilots are company employees"...

01-17-2026 | 06:40 AM

#4593

SideStickMonkey

Line Holder

Joined: Feb 2020

Posts: 1,182

Likes: 310

Just wanted to double check but I’m sure I still haven’t been properly notified.

Yesterday was last day of vacation, got a CNO call the morning on that last day of vacation notifying me of SC on my first day back (it’s after 1800 so that fine), never acknowledged it since I was in an uncontactable status yesterday.

Never received any notification today. Basically the company improperly notified me of my SC so that SC should be removed from my schedule, correct?

01-17-2026 | 06:42 AM

#4594

GutterGuard

Line Holder

Joined: Sep 2025

Posts: 1,052

Likes: 851

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey

CNO is only valid for converting a long call pilot to short call. You were not on long call at the time of notification, you were non-contactable. That is not legal notification.

01-17-2026 | 08:01 AM

#4595

notEnuf

Racketeer

Joined: Mar 2015

Posts: 13,339

Likes: 829

From: N60.4858 W149.9327

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey

Happened to me. I ignored it and got a SCC. I never got called but if I did... Huh? When was I notified of a SC?

01-17-2026 | 08:52 AM

#4596

FangsF15

Moderator

Joined: Sep 2011

Posts: 8,332

Likes: 1,342

Quote:

Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey

Just to add one more "+1" to the above, I think ALPA would prefer we NOT call and tell them prior, or acknowledge things when non-contactable (which, on vacation, you 100% are - and may safely ignore anything while in such a status).

The 10-18 hour self-determination clause of the PWA only applies to the first day after a PWA defined "no-fly day", which vacation is NOT. As such, a person must call you with ANY assignment on the day after vacation (unless you self-acknowledge). Even after a no-fly day, any assignment reporting 18 hours after going on LC must come from a live scheduler.

01-17-2026 | 09:03 AM

#4597

Asd456

On Reserve

Joined: Apr 2020

Posts: 5

Likes: 0

Might I add another question to this?

Vacation is no fly, what about training? I know training cannot be considered a non fly day but can it be considered a "Rotation" which obligates a schedule check?

01-17-2026 | 09:38 AM

#4598

notEnuf

Racketeer

Joined: Mar 2015

Posts: 13,339

Likes: 829

From: N60.4858 W149.9327

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asd456

No, it does not require a schedule check.

01-17-2026 | 09:44 AM

#4599

GutterGuard

Line Holder

Joined: Sep 2025

Posts: 1,052

Likes: 851

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asd456

Training is not a non-fly day because you are performing company duty. You have no obligation to be contactable during your training period + 9 hours free from duty afterwards, at which time you revert to long call. It is not a rotation. There is no pre-release schedule check.