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Old 01-16-2026 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by thunderbird22
this happened to me earlier in the month. Everyone else rsv around my seniority had pre posted rest 0600 the last rsv day before a golden x day and they did. Day trip shoulda gone to someone junior to me of course i got it bc i didnt have pre posted rest before my golden x day. Called scheduling “crew resources handles that and theyre not supposed to be doing it but they do”. Submitted one of those smart sheets to crew resources and they added the pre posted rest but they can’t just be adding it to some pilots schedules and not others. Absolute malarky.

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It's BS. It allows manipulation of trip coverage and RUO.

**** off a scheduler? There is nothing stopping them from putting rest on everyone ahead of you so that you get targeted for a specific crappy trip when coverage is ran, then removing that rest.

I probably shouldn't have said that out loud.

However the issue isn't really that rest is being put on schedules, it's that pre-posted rest is causing pilots to be skipped in coverage for trips they were otherwise legal for. That's the real problem.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 05:21 PM
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I am on reserve and didn’t get a GS because it would have conflicted with a trip they had on my line. In years past, I would have gotten the GS and payback days and the reserve trip would have been dropped because of the conflict. The scheduler is telling me that ARCOS will look at my schedule see the conflict and move to the next pilot….is this the new normal? Is the company purposely doing this?

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Old 01-16-2026 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
I am on reserve and didn’t get a GS because it would have conflicted with a trip they had on my line. In years past, I would have gotten the GS and payback days and the reserve trip would have been dropped because of the conflict. The scheduler is telling me that ARCOS will look at my schedule see the conflict and move to the next pilot….is this the new normal? Is the company purposely doing this?
Did the reserve rotation and the GS rotation report on the same day? If so that is correct - you cannot get a conflicting rotation on the same day as a reserve assignment (rotation or SC). However if you had a rotation that reported a day or 2 after the GS rotation then that is an illegal skip and you should get some extra pay for that. File a crew assist case and if they deny that then file an STS.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Did the reserve rotation and the GS rotation report on the same day? If so that is correct - you cannot get a conflicting rotation on the same day as a reserve assignment (rotation or SC). However if you had a rotation that reported a day or 2 after the GS rotation then that is an illegal skip and you should get some extra pay for that. File a crew assist case and if they deny that then file an STS.
Day 1 of the GS was a day off and day 2 would have conflicted with the reserve assignment. In the past they would have to drop the reserve assignment to give me the GS. But now that ARCOS is in control, it skips. Crew scheduling is telling me that the company and ALPA are aware of the problem but they haven’t come to a resolution. Are there any publications on this?

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Old 01-16-2026 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Day 1 of the GS was a day off and day 2 would have conflicted with the reserve assignment. In the past they would have to drop the reserve assignment to give me the GS. But now that ARCOS is in control, it skips. Crew scheduling is telling me that the company and ALPA are aware of the problem but they haven’t come to a resolution. Are there any publications on this?
Scheduling uses the “ALPA and the comments are working on it” card many times when that isn’t the case. The resolution if you are illegally skipped for a GS is single pay no credit for the skipped rotation, although I think reserves may only get the first duty period paid not the whole trip. Either way there is already a remedy in place it’s just that the company doesn’t want to pay up.
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Old 01-16-2026 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Day 1 of the GS was a day off and day 2 would have conflicted with the reserve assignment. In the past they would have to drop the reserve assignment to give me the GS. But now that ARCOS is in control, it skips. Crew scheduling is telling me that the company and ALPA are aware of the problem but they haven’t come to a resolution. Are there any publications on this?
I suspect that your issue is the same as I said above...

When a reserve award/assignment is placed on your schedule, they now auto-post the 18 (for SC) or 24 hour (for rotation) pre-rotation rest on your schedule.

That pre-posted rest is interfering with any subsequent assignment/award that may occur before the rest, including Green slips.

Another way to say it is that if Rest ever appears on your schedule (pre-posted for x-days, pre-rotation, pre-SC, or at the whim of a scheduler), you are being skipped* for trip coverage due to a "conflict".

*Unless they remove the rest at their discretion.

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Old 01-17-2026 | 04:10 AM
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Had a lapse in judgement in the heat of the moment during a reroute on day 2 of a 3-day, logged into ICrew and input my 4 digit pin to get rid of the notification for the trip I was already on, now i'm looking at the new trip w/ rerouted legs. Was that essentially the same as accepting a CNO? We never got any official ACARS of the RR after that. I figured me inputting my pin was the culprit. Original RR sucked, ended up getting second RR properly via ACARS that benefited us both so wasn't a total loss.
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Old 01-17-2026 | 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Verdell
I suspect that your issue is the same as I said above...

When a reserve award/assignment is placed on your schedule, they now auto-post the 18 (for SC) or 24 hour (for rotation) pre-rotation rest on your schedule.

That pre-posted rest is interfering with any subsequent assignment/award that may occur before the rest, including Green slips.

Another way to say it is that if Rest ever appears on your schedule (pre-posted for x-days, pre-rotation, pre-SC, or at the whim of a scheduler), you are being skipped* for trip coverage due to a "conflict".

*Unless they remove the rest at their discretion.

Bull****
It’s their way to reduce PB days. But it only harms some, not enough to actually affect the numbers. Agree it’s total BS.
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Old 01-17-2026 | 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DryClutch
Had a lapse in judgement in the heat of the moment during a reroute on day 2 of a 3-day, logged into ICrew and input my 4 digit pin to get rid of the notification for the trip I was already on, now i'm looking at the new trip w/ rerouted legs. Was that essentially the same as accepting a CNO? We never got any official ACARS of the RR after that. I figured me inputting my pin was the culprit. Original RR sucked, ended up getting second RR properly via ACARS that benefited us both so wasn't a total loss.
Yes icrew is the most legal way of acknolweding any schedule changes, including RR. Any time you acknowledge anything in icrew it removes any requirement for the company to contact you (assuming contact/notification was required in the first place).
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Old 01-17-2026 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
Yes icrew is the most legal way of acknolweding any schedule changes, including RR. Any time you acknowledge anything in icrew it removes any requirement for the company to contact you (assuming contact/notification was required in the first place).
Yea I figured I maybe hosed us. I mean probably would have gotten RR via ACARS but still. We had fun blaming me for it.
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