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#4651
No idea what the underlying issue is and that’s the only time I’ve ever seen it.
#4652
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2023
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I find the new CNO verbiage to be confusing when it calls during the award window. I have auto accept on and therefore don’t get a call during the offer window. But when the GS arrives to me to acknowledge I get a call and the CNO says “We are in the green slip step of coverage….” and then goes on to list the rotation information. To me it sounds like the IA CNO message.
In the past it said “Congratulations, you’ve been awarded rotation number….” Making it clear that you’re in the award window.
it doesn’t help that I don’t get the ARCOS popup anymore. I have to know to open the app because the CNO called.
In the past it said “Congratulations, you’ve been awarded rotation number….” Making it clear that you’re in the award window.
it doesn’t help that I don’t get the ARCOS popup anymore. I have to know to open the app because the CNO called.
#4653
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 922
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From: B737 FO
I find the new CNO verbiage to be confusing when it calls during the award window. I have auto accept on and therefore don’t get a call during the offer window. But when the GS arrives to me to acknowledge I get a call and the CNO says “We are in the green slip step of coverage….” and then goes on to list the rotation information. To me it sounds like the IA CNO message.
In the past it said “Congratulations, you’ve been awarded rotation number….” Making it clear that you’re in the award window.
it doesn’t help that I don’t get the ARCOS popup anymore. I have to know to open the app because the CNO called.
In the past it said “Congratulations, you’ve been awarded rotation number….” Making it clear that you’re in the award window.
it doesn’t help that I don’t get the ARCOS popup anymore. I have to know to open the app because the CNO called.
#4654
Another case of 1) Improper notification, AND 2) either lack of training <or> fishing: (I don't know which offends me more.)
Transitioning from REG to RES today so I has ZERO contractability yesterday, no schedule check requirement and no obligation to 'make myself aware' of stuff put on my schedule.
Company called yesterday and left a message. I didn't answer, and didn't bother listening to the message. I really wasn't interested in anything happening at work and didn't have any slips.
I checked the message this morning and it was a CNO notification for conversion to SC today. It was time stamped by my phone at 11:am-ish mecca-time yesterday.
Funny thing is that, if they had programmed the CNO to robo-call me at 0001, it would have been a completely legal use of CNO (LC-to-SC escalation w/18 hrs notification) AND a legal notification. But no, they sent it out at a non-contractual/non-contactable time so I wasn't properly notified.
What do you all think; fishing or lack of training? Either way, DART is going in. (one more example for negotiations)
Transitioning from REG to RES today so I has ZERO contractability yesterday, no schedule check requirement and no obligation to 'make myself aware' of stuff put on my schedule.
Company called yesterday and left a message. I didn't answer, and didn't bother listening to the message. I really wasn't interested in anything happening at work and didn't have any slips.
I checked the message this morning and it was a CNO notification for conversion to SC today. It was time stamped by my phone at 11:am-ish mecca-time yesterday.
Funny thing is that, if they had programmed the CNO to robo-call me at 0001, it would have been a completely legal use of CNO (LC-to-SC escalation w/18 hrs notification) AND a legal notification. But no, they sent it out at a non-contractual/non-contactable time so I wasn't properly notified.
What do you all think; fishing or lack of training? Either way, DART is going in. (one more example for negotiations)
#4655
Another case of 1) Improper notification, AND 2) either lack of training <or> fishing: (I don't know which offends me more.)
Transitioning from REG to RES today so I has ZERO contractability yesterday, no schedule check requirement and no obligation to 'make myself aware' of stuff put on my schedule.
Company called yesterday and left a message. I didn't answer, and didn't bother listening to the message. I really wasn't interested in anything happening at work and didn't have any slips.
I checked the message this morning and it was a CNO notification for conversion to SC today. It was time stamped by my phone at 11:am-ish mecca-time yesterday.
Funny thing is that, if they had programmed the CNO to robo-call me at 0001, it would have been a completely legal use of CNO (LC-to-SC escalation w/18 hrs notification) AND a legal notification. But no, they sent it out at a non-contractual/non-contactable time so I wasn't properly notified.
What do you all think; fishing or lack of training? Either way, DART is going in. (one more example for negotiations)
Transitioning from REG to RES today so I has ZERO contractability yesterday, no schedule check requirement and no obligation to 'make myself aware' of stuff put on my schedule.
Company called yesterday and left a message. I didn't answer, and didn't bother listening to the message. I really wasn't interested in anything happening at work and didn't have any slips.
I checked the message this morning and it was a CNO notification for conversion to SC today. It was time stamped by my phone at 11:am-ish mecca-time yesterday.
Funny thing is that, if they had programmed the CNO to robo-call me at 0001, it would have been a completely legal use of CNO (LC-to-SC escalation w/18 hrs notification) AND a legal notification. But no, they sent it out at a non-contractual/non-contactable time so I wasn't properly notified.
What do you all think; fishing or lack of training? Either way, DART is going in. (one more example for negotiations)
#4656
#4657
He's not subject to the 1200 schedule check because REG to RES. He simply begins the 18 hour leash at 0001, so technically the CNO or a live call should have occurred 9.5 hours ago (at the moment he began reserve), not yesterday during the day when he was still a REG pilot with zero obligation.
#4658
I find the new CNO verbiage to be confusing when it calls during the award window. I have auto accept on and therefore don’t get a call during the offer window. But when the GS arrives to me to acknowledge I get a call and the CNO says “We are in the green slip step of coverage….” and then goes on to list the rotation information. To me it sounds like the IA CNO message.
In the past it said “Congratulations, you’ve been awarded rotation number….” Making it clear that you’re in the award window.
it doesn’t help that I don’t get the ARCOS popup anymore. I have to know to open the app because the CNO called.
In the past it said “Congratulations, you’ve been awarded rotation number….” Making it clear that you’re in the award window.
it doesn’t help that I don’t get the ARCOS popup anymore. I have to know to open the app because the CNO called.
#4659
On Reserve
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 38
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Another case of 1) Improper notification, AND 2) either lack of training <or> fishing: (I don't know which offends me more.)
Transitioning from REG to RES today so I has ZERO contractability yesterday, no schedule check requirement and no obligation to 'make myself aware' of stuff put on my schedule.
Company called yesterday and left a message. I didn't answer, and didn't bother listening to the message. I really wasn't interested in anything happening at work and didn't have any slips.
I checked the message this morning and it was a CNO notification for conversion to SC today. It was time stamped by my phone at 11:am-ish mecca-time yesterday.
Funny thing is that, if they had programmed the CNO to robo-call me at 0001, it would have been a completely legal use of CNO (LC-to-SC escalation w/18 hrs notification) AND a legal notification. But no, they sent it out at a non-contractual/non-contactable time so I wasn't properly notified.
What do you all think; fishing or lack of training? Either way, DART is going in. (one more example for negotiations)
Transitioning from REG to RES today so I has ZERO contractability yesterday, no schedule check requirement and no obligation to 'make myself aware' of stuff put on my schedule.
Company called yesterday and left a message. I didn't answer, and didn't bother listening to the message. I really wasn't interested in anything happening at work and didn't have any slips.
I checked the message this morning and it was a CNO notification for conversion to SC today. It was time stamped by my phone at 11:am-ish mecca-time yesterday.
Funny thing is that, if they had programmed the CNO to robo-call me at 0001, it would have been a completely legal use of CNO (LC-to-SC escalation w/18 hrs notification) AND a legal notification. But no, they sent it out at a non-contractual/non-contactable time so I wasn't properly notified.
What do you all think; fishing or lack of training? Either way, DART is going in. (one more example for negotiations)
#4660
That trip is an illegal assignment from an FAR standpoint if you were never notified of SC; you didn't have required prospective rest. "My LC started at midnight so I haven't been given my FAR rest."
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