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Old 10-01-2025 | 05:43 AM
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I have limited experience in this area but it appears the SC assignments have been really odd. 2100 RAPs with no departures that evening etc. A ton of SC assignments overall - is it because of the higher number of reserves available and CS is assigning as many SC as they have people available?
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Old 10-01-2025 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SVCTA
Just to confirm here, a REST period is not considered a 'non-fly day,' correct? As in: if I have a (30-hour) REST assignment in the middle of a block of RES days, they can assign me a very early show on the day after my rest period ends. Right?
There are two scenarios:

1. Scheduling assigns a stand-alone 30 hour rest period. This qualifies as a non-fly day and the earliest you can be made to report is 10 hours after the end of rest.

2. Scheduling assigns a rotation or SC, AND AT THE SAME TIME assigns rest for 30 hour preceeding report. This is a legal rotation/SC assignment and the 10 hour protection does not apply.
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Old 10-01-2025 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by icohftb
I have limited experience in this area but it appears the SC assignments have been really odd. 2100 RAPs with no departures that evening etc. A ton of SC assignments overall - is it because of the higher number of reserves available and CS is assigning as many SC as they have people available?
It has been my experience lately that on SC I get a DH to another base to cover flying from that base. This is only legal for RES. If one base is understaffed and another is overstaffed, then the overstaffed base gets a lot perhaps all SCs. The fact that they haven't had any AEs with As in some time is causing imbalances and they are using OOB RES to solve their problems. Plan on doing your max SCs. I had 6/6 by the second week. Almost everyone in my cat had at least 5. Unfortunately this is our backdoor universal RES.
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Old 10-01-2025 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by icohftb
I have limited experience in this area but it appears the SC assignments have been really odd. 2100 RAPs with no departures that evening etc. A ton of SC assignments overall - is it because of the higher number of reserves available and CS is assigning as many SC as they have people available?

Mostly because they can. They're probably just trying things out to see what costs more, a bunch of SCC or the occasional GS that will be caused by no SC. I've seen 3 pilots in the same days available bucket get the 2359 SC. For the two senior pilots, that's pretty much free money, but pennies on the dollar if it saves a GS. SCC credit needs to go up and be paid whether used or not.
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Old 10-01-2025 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Mostly because they can. They're probably just trying things out to see what costs more, a bunch of SCC or the occasional GS that will be caused by no SC. I've seen 3 pilots in the same days available bucket get the 2359 SC. For the two senior pilots, that's pretty much free money, but pennies on the dollar if it saves a GS. SCC credit needs to go up and be paid whether used or not.
Wouldn't SCC being paid regardless of usage only drive them to assign more SC than needed? (Not that they are currently metering out SC to avoid paying SCC for unused).
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Old 10-01-2025 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by icohftb
Wouldn't SCC being paid regardless of usage only drive them to assign more SC than needed? (Not that they are currently metering out SC to avoid paying SCC for unused).
Are they not assigning the max SC if able?
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Old 10-01-2025 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Are they not assigning the max SC if able?
Good point. If they are gonna assign max SC regardless of usage or logic 1 hr credit isn't enough of a disincentive to not be "wasteful"
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Old 10-01-2025 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by icohftb
Wouldn't SCC being paid regardless of usage only drive them to assign more SC than needed? (Not that they are currently metering out SC to avoid paying SCC for unused).

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm saying we should get paid SCC if we're assigned a SC, whether they assign us a trip or not. I just looked the reserve availability list for yesterday and nearly everyone had 6 SC for the month. They're using SC to the max already, we might as well get paid extra for it. The hope would be that they're more judicious on SC assignments.

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Old 10-01-2025 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm saying we should get paid SCC if we're assigned a SC, whether they assign us a trip or not. I just looked the reserve availability list for yesterday and nearly everyone had 6 SC for the month. They're using SC to the max already, we might as well get paid extra for it. The hope would be that they're more judicious on SC assignments.
Ok I think I understand what you're saying - the current 1 hr SCC for unused SC as a disincentive is not working.
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Old 10-01-2025 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by icohftb
Ok I think I understand what you're saying - the current 1 hr SCC for unused SC as a disincentive is not working.
Yes, and to be more clear my 2100 and later SC have only once resulted in an early morning DH. This was when I was not expecting anything because my airplane's last departure was around 2130. I got a 0435 report to DH out to another base on a different aircraft. The overnight RAPs are 9 hours so they can cover early morning and late night contingencies like swaps, repos etc.
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