What's the latest info on SCs above 6? Has CS actually been awarding any SCs past 6?

23. S. 1. f.6 seems pretty clear cut...

 

The first STS report I filed over this finally got looked at and ALPA says I’m due money but the company won’t play ball. It’s currently in “impasse” status.

Never been awarded anything over 6.

 

So once you hit 6 do you just put in a blanket YS for more SCs for the rest of the month and then document that with an STS? I imagine this could get expensive for the Co. (whenever this finally gets passed the "impasse" stage)

 

Yep that’s the play right now. Blanket yellow once you hit 6, file with crew assist, get denied, then STS and hope for a payday down the road.

 

Thanks for this. I completely forgot that the 30 hours was BEFORE going on LC the first day. At 1800 on day 2-of-the-second-block-of-4 (in my case), I can no longer look back and see a 30-hour rest. Doohp.

For those not yet on the widget contract FB page (I've signed up for the group now) is the 30/168 calculator available anywhere else? The ALPA app doesn't have one unless you load your whole schedule.

 

Somebody created a very easy to use 30/168 calculator within the Open As App app. I'm not entirely sure how you find the calculator once you download that app, but that's the place to start.

Also, the bold part is wrong (I laid this out in post 3044). If you start LC at midnight on day 1, you actually turn into a pumpkin to start an FDP or RAP at 1800 on day 6, which is the first day of LC after the single X day. 4 LC, 1 X, 1 LC puts you at day 6.

 

FAR 117 30-168 Calculator by following the link.
https://webclient.openasapp.net/port...7-d7f55cd2a3eb

 

Thank you both for the information! The mind does not wrap itself around this unless you work through the scenarios multiple times. Once it (the brain) gets it, hopefully it sticks.

Gotta help each other out when the co. is determined to push these limits.

 

Wondering if CS has tried something like this:

Scenario: RRRR/X/RRRR, no 30-hr before X-day (or no contractual notification) as previously discussed. Pilot ascertains (however they choose) that they have a 1200-2100 SC placed on the first Res day of second block w/leading 18hr rest block showing in MiCrew (no notification-not required, nothing acknowledged-not required).

First let's make sure I've got what is legal.
Legal to start RAP, legal to accept a FDP as long as it starts before 1800 (into 30-hr rest), legal to DH after 1800 (into 30-hr rest).

Pilot: I can accept the first flight but I need a 30-hr rest before anything else.
CS: You just came off a rest of more than 30 hours. Your 24 hour X-day plus the 12 hours that you knew about from your schedule check.
Pilot: No, I had a 24 hour X-day, prospective rest. I woke up at 0001 and ascertained that I had a legal 10-hour prospective rest before a RAP so was legal-to-accept the assignment. Not the same. Not legal without 30-hours.

 

Depends on if/when you were released into rest during the first 4-day reserve period. If you finished a rotation on final LC day before the X-day, you would be required to check your schedule in the 30 minutes following that FDP. If they assigned you rest that began prior to 1800 on that final LC day, leading into the X-day, you had 30 hours prospective rest leading into the second block of LC.

If you were never used during the first LC block (or not used on the final day of it), and never properly notified into rest prior to 1800 on the last LC day, then yea, you only had 24 hours of X-day rest.