Reserve for Dummies
01-24-2025 | 08:47 AM
#3041
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined: Jun 2021
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Thnks. Funny i've actually never clicked on that menu option before, only my time card. Either way, the 41FC pay code was dropped on a previous timecard that ive already been paid for. So to quality control me getting actually paid out for this, I guess i'd need to search current and future pay statements from Icrew and look for that pay code to show up at some point.
Don't worry, a great one stop shop of pay transparency is “just around the corner”.
01-24-2025 | 01:39 PM
#3042
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Scenario: 4 day RES block, 1 X-day, 4 day RES block.
If I am not contacted (human) of a prospective 30-hr rest period, what is the formula to calculate legality?
I started LC at midnight day-1, so it should be simple. Making sure that I'm not legal at 00:01 on the third day of the second block. (day 8)(correct?)
I was used for a 3-day in my first block w/o a 30 layover; nothing on my calendar except LC at my 30-min post-flight schedule check.
I haven't acknowledged the CNO voicemail they left me, (didn't read or acknowledged the CNO text in MiCrew) and haven't logged into iCrew since my trip, so per MEC Alert 25-01 (most recent document), I haven't been notified of the 30-hour rest that is sitting in MiCrew.
BTW, thank you for the 'Required call' -v- CNO discussion. tennisguru: your post #2844 is an awesome, simple outline to follow!
If I am not contacted (human) of a prospective 30-hr rest period, what is the formula to calculate legality?
I started LC at midnight day-1, so it should be simple. Making sure that I'm not legal at 00:01 on the third day of the second block. (day 8)(correct?)
I was used for a 3-day in my first block w/o a 30 layover; nothing on my calendar except LC at my 30-min post-flight schedule check.
I haven't acknowledged the CNO voicemail they left me, (didn't read or acknowledged the CNO text in MiCrew) and haven't logged into iCrew since my trip, so per MEC Alert 25-01 (most recent document), I haven't been notified of the 30-hour rest that is sitting in MiCrew.
BTW, thank you for the 'Required call' -v- CNO discussion. tennisguru: your post #2844 is an awesome, simple outline to follow!
01-24-2025 | 02:21 PM
#3044
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
Scenario: 4 day RES block, 1 X-day, 4 day RES block.
If I am not contacted (human) of a prospective 30-hr rest period, what is the formula to calculate legality?
I started LC at midnight day-1, so it should be simple. Making sure that I'm not legal at 00:01 on the third day of the second block. (day 8)(correct?)
I was used for a 3-day in my first block w/o a 30 layover; nothing on my calendar except LC at my 30-min post-flight schedule check.
I haven't acknowledged the CNO voicemail they left me, (didn't read or acknowledged the CNO text in MiCrew) and haven't logged into iCrew since my trip, so per MEC Alert 25-01 (most recent document), I haven't been notified of the 30-hour rest that is sitting in MiCrew.
BTW, thank you for the 'Required call' -v- CNO discussion. tennisguru: your post #2844 is an awesome, simple outline to follow!
If I am not contacted (human) of a prospective 30-hr rest period, what is the formula to calculate legality?
I started LC at midnight day-1, so it should be simple. Making sure that I'm not legal at 00:01 on the third day of the second block. (day 8)(correct?)
I was used for a 3-day in my first block w/o a 30 layover; nothing on my calendar except LC at my 30-min post-flight schedule check.
I haven't acknowledged the CNO voicemail they left me, (didn't read or acknowledged the CNO text in MiCrew) and haven't logged into iCrew since my trip, so per MEC Alert 25-01 (most recent document), I haven't been notified of the 30-hour rest that is sitting in MiCrew.
BTW, thank you for the 'Required call' -v- CNO discussion. tennisguru: your post #2844 is an awesome, simple outline to follow!
01-24-2025 | 02:25 PM
#3045
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
1. Going into a golden X day or vacation day you are auto released from LC into rest at 0600, or from SC at 1200. This is contractual and thus “known” rest that does not require any contact from scheduling.
2. Going into a standard, non-golden X day there is no contractual or known rest. The company auto-calls you from CNO at 0600 on your last day of LC to assign you rest starting at 1800. Unless the pilot chooses to acknowledge this rest then it is not a legal assignment and cannot be used for 30/168.
01-24-2025 | 03:36 PM
#3046
Racketeer
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
There are 2 rest assignments on your last day of LC (assuming no rotation that ends that day):
1. Going into a golden X day or vacation day you are auto released from LC into rest at 0600, or from SC at 1200. This is contractual and thus “known” rest that does not require any contact from scheduling.
2. Going into a standard, non-golden X day there is no contractual or known rest. The company auto-calls you from CNO at 0600 on your last day of LC to assign you rest starting at 1800. Unless the pilot chooses to acknowledge this rest then it is not a legal assignment and cannot be used for 30/168.
1. Going into a golden X day or vacation day you are auto released from LC into rest at 0600, or from SC at 1200. This is contractual and thus “known” rest that does not require any contact from scheduling.
2. Going into a standard, non-golden X day there is no contractual or known rest. The company auto-calls you from CNO at 0600 on your last day of LC to assign you rest starting at 1800. Unless the pilot chooses to acknowledge this rest then it is not a legal assignment and cannot be used for 30/168.
01-24-2025 | 04:10 PM
#3047
Roll’n Thunder
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: Pilot
Second, when you get the CNO at 0600, it is always for rest starting at 1800.
You are correct that they can at any point before 1600 have a live scheduler call you and assign you rest starting no earlier than 2 hours after the call, assuming you don’t answer the phone. If you answer the phone the rest can start immediately. But at least for now they are not using a live scheduler to call to assign rest going into a non-golden X day, so your point is moot.
01-24-2025 | 05:23 PM
#3048
Racketeer
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
First, going into a non-golden X day they never call with a live scheduler. It is always a CNO.
Second, when you get the CNO at 0600, it is always for rest starting at 1800.
You are correct that they can at any point before 1600 have a live scheduler call you and assign you rest starting no earlier than 2 hours after the call, assuming you don’t answer the phone. If you answer the phone the rest can start immediately. But at least for now they are not using a live scheduler to call to assign rest going into a non-golden X day, so your point is moot.
Second, when you get the CNO at 0600, it is always for rest starting at 1800.
You are correct that they can at any point before 1600 have a live scheduler call you and assign you rest starting no earlier than 2 hours after the call, assuming you don’t answer the phone. If you answer the phone the rest can start immediately. But at least for now they are not using a live scheduler to call to assign rest going into a non-golden X day, so your point is moot.
01-24-2025 | 06:21 PM
#3049
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2. Going into a standard, non-golden X day there is no contractual or known rest. The company auto-calls you from CNO at 0600 on your last day of LC to assign you rest starting at 1800. Unless the pilot chooses to acknowledge this rest then it is not a legal assignment and cannot be used for 30/168.
2. Going into a standard, non-golden X day there is no contractual or known rest. The company auto-calls you from CNO at 0600 on your last day of LC to assign you rest starting at 1800. Unless the pilot chooses to acknowledge this rest then it is not a legal assignment and cannot be used for 30/168.
This is the exact scenario I have. Auto-call (CNO) at 6:am on last day of LC going into a NON-golden X-day assigning rest at 1800.
No human call since the robocall so I guess I haven't been notified. Oh well.
01-25-2025 | 05:48 AM
#3050
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Joined: Sep 2014
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6:am CNO robo-call; NOT a real scheduler.
Bold added above is mine.
This is the exact scenario I have. Auto-call (CNO) at 6:am on last day of LC going into a NON-golden X-day assigning rest at 1800.
No human call since the robocall so I guess I haven't been notified. Oh well.
Bold added above is mine.
This is the exact scenario I have. Auto-call (CNO) at 6:am on last day of LC going into a NON-golden X-day assigning rest at 1800.
No human call since the robocall so I guess I haven't been notified. Oh well.
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