Reserve for Dummies
02-07-2025 | 02:25 AM
#3141
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Can someone explain the new SC PBS bidding thing to me like I’m 5?
I’ve read the ALPA comms on it, but I’m drawing a blank as to what benefit it serves. You can bid 6 SCs in a row, but then get a 6 day trip that just wipes them out right? Then you’re back to square one and have to get 6 SCs up the behind like everyone else. Am I missing something?
What’s the upside?
I’ve read the ALPA comms on it, but I’m drawing a blank as to what benefit it serves. You can bid 6 SCs in a row, but then get a 6 day trip that just wipes them out right? Then you’re back to square one and have to get 6 SCs up the behind like everyone else. Am I missing something?
What’s the upside?
02-07-2025 | 03:25 AM
#3142
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Can someone explain the new SC PBS bidding thing to me like I’m 5?
I’ve read the ALPA comms on it, but I’m drawing a blank as to what benefit it serves. You can bid 6 SCs in a row, but then get a 6 day trip that just wipes them out right? Then you’re back to square one and have to get 6 SCs up the behind like everyone else. Am I missing something?
What’s the upside?
I’ve read the ALPA comms on it, but I’m drawing a blank as to what benefit it serves. You can bid 6 SCs in a row, but then get a 6 day trip that just wipes them out right? Then you’re back to square one and have to get 6 SCs up the behind like everyone else. Am I missing something?
What’s the upside?
Not a reservist. Might be some benefit for commuters to strategically bid them, then force drop them with a YS.
02-07-2025 | 05:41 AM
#3143
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If you don't want the SCC PNC, you could bid them the last 6 days you are on call for the month so they can't convert you before that. Then just YS a trip to knock them out maybe? Not sure if you can YS a 4 or 5 day on an X-ray the day or so prior and maybe force a 30/168? If you could get a earlyish report late finish 5 day the day prior to the 6 short calls, and strategically bid earlier short calls on the last 2 days, you might be able to knock the last two off between needing rest between rotations and 30/168. Viola, no short calls! Obviously a perfect world example.
Not a reservist. Might be some benefit for commuters to strategically bid them, then force drop them with a YS.
Not a reservist. Might be some benefit for commuters to strategically bid them, then force drop them with a YS.
02-07-2025 | 05:52 AM
#3144
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It seems that monthly bidding for short call could be a way to force the company to pay you above the monthly max? Bid all 6 at the end of the month while knowing that you’ll likely serve 4+ earlier in the month. Then those last few SC’s will pay you 3 hours each regardless of whether or not you get assigned a trip. Note: you’d get the extra money for the first SC above the monthly max even if you get a trip on that day, but obviously the subsequent SC’s would be knocked out by that trip and I assume you won’t get any extra money for those SC’s that are removed due to the trip.
If we have six at the end of the month, is there any reason to believe that they'd give you more than six SC? Either way, it could work out in your favor, but given how few there are to bid, I'm not convinced they'd need to go above six. All this would do for them is ensure they have SC at the end of the month.
02-07-2025 | 05:59 AM
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If we have six at the end of the month, is there any reason to believe that they'd give you more than six SC? Either way, it could work out in your favor, but given how few there are to bid, I'm not convinced they'd need to go above six. All this would do for them is ensure they have SC at the end of the month.
02-07-2025 | 06:03 AM
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Good point. Given our IT, I doubt that changes anytime soon. I guess you could call them out on it, when you discover SC a few hours prior.
02-07-2025 | 06:18 AM
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If we have six at the end of the month, is there any reason to believe that they'd give you more than six SC? Either way, it could work out in your favor, but given how few there are to bid, I'm not convinced they'd need to go above six. All this would do for them is ensure they have SC at the end of the month.
I haven't read ANYTHING that suggests that there's anything "special" about these SCs, and that they can't just be removed/changed on a whim just like normal SCs. How long before a "can they do that?" question about getting a live call from a scheduler during a contactable period that changed their awarded 0500 SC to an assigned 1800 SC. Sorry, RES isn't REG and RES don't get guarantees.
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02-07-2025 | 06:34 AM
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02-07-2025 | 07:20 AM
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I imagine, in this situation, that they will still assign normal SCs earlier in the month, and I wouldn't put it past them to straight up remove your awarded short calls later in the month that would take you past 6. Are they allowed to do that? Probably not, but that wouldn't stop them.
I haven't read ANYTHING that suggests that there's anything "special" about these SCs, and that they can't just be removed/changed on a whim just like normal SCs. How long before a "can they do that?" question about getting a live call from a scheduler during a contactable period that changed their awarded 0500 SC to an assigned 1800 SC. Sorry, RES isn't REG and RES don't get guarantees.
I haven't read ANYTHING that suggests that there's anything "special" about these SCs, and that they can't just be removed/changed on a whim just like normal SCs. How long before a "can they do that?" question about getting a live call from a scheduler during a contactable period that changed their awarded 0500 SC to an assigned 1800 SC. Sorry, RES isn't REG and RES don't get guarantees.
02-07-2025 | 07:22 AM
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i guarantee you that they will limit these to 6. to do otherwise would undermine their position in the grievance process.
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