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Old 02-08-2025 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
As the negotiators said after the current contract TA came out: “Pay, no credit” is the “phrase that pays”. Anytime the “credit” column on the time card is blank, that pay is on top of/above Reaerve Guarantee.

Widgetcrew.com is an awesome website to bookmark. Copy your iCrew time card, and paste it into that website, and it does all the math for you.

Also, “H & M” is a calculator app that allows you to add/subtract and multiply hours and minutes. A worthwhile download.
For what its worth, you can do math with hours/minutes in excel with the correct cell formatting - [h]:mm;@
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Old 02-08-2025 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
i guarantee you that they will limit these to 6. to do otherwise would undermine their position in the grievance process.
I finally got a response to my pay inquiry on SCs above 6 and they not surprisingly denied it based on PWA 23.S.3.a and claim "you may be awarded but not will be awarded" and "it comes at company discretion". Funny how they didn't mention 23.S.1.f. I know it's useless to continue arguing with them and I already filed an STS but man is it frustrating!
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Old 02-08-2025 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
There is no obligation to ascertain your schedule. They must contact you (CNO okay) for the short call DURING long call and the assignment must be 18+ hours from that call.
Why is CNO okay here? I thought CS had to contact you to notify you of SC, meaning CNO doesn't count?
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Old 02-08-2025 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Prospect
Why is CNO okay here? I thought CS had to contact you to notify you of SC, meaning CNO doesn't count?
The union gave that up (under DH I believe). SC and SC associated rest are now allowed under CNO. Rotations, and non SC associated rest require an actual person and you must be in contactable status.

The PWA difference is “attempted contact” vs “notification” I believe.
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Old 02-09-2025 | 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15;3880808.

[url=http://Widgetcrew.com
Widgetcrew.com[/url] is an awesome website to bookmark. Copy your iCrew time card, and paste it into that website, and it does all the math for you.
Great website! Super easy to decode all the Icrew clutter! Worked great
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Old 02-09-2025 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueSkies
I finally got a response to my pay inquiry on SCs above 6 and they not surprisingly denied it based on PWA 23.S.3.a and claim "you may be awarded but not will be awarded" and "it comes at company discretion". Funny how they didn't mention 23.S.1.f. I know it's useless to continue arguing with them and I already filed an STS but man is it frustrating!
These Crew Assist inquiry cases appear to be essentially worthless when pointing out when something was done or assigned in error. You can tell by the response that the person handling your case has essentially no clue about the subject matter your inquiring about. The response I got from mine just now is laughable. It's like they might not have even read what I submitted. I love the "have a nice day thanks" sign off. Can we go right to an STS or do we have to start at the crew assist level?
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Old 02-09-2025 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DryClutch
These Crew Assist inquiry cases appear to be essentially worthless when pointing out when something was done or assigned in error. You can tell by the response that the person handling your case has essentially no clue about the subject matter your inquiring about. The response I got from mine just now is laughable. It's like they might not have even read what I submitted. I love the "have a nice day thanks" sign off. Can we go right to an STS or do we have to start at the crew assist level?
I don’t mean to rain on your parade of thinking the Crew Assist folks don’t know but here it goes:

the knowledge they have of the PWA is based on their supervisor’s interpretations and in cases where it differs from ALPA it’s more than likely been mentioned to the higher ups but good luck getting them to disseminate this. Part 2, these answers to the pilots come from the same pool of folks that respond to the ALPA committee tasked with disputing via STS.
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Old 02-09-2025 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DryClutch
Can we go right to an STS or do we have to start at the crew assist level?
Fill them out at the same time. You can reasonably assume that crew assist will not fix anything, because they rarely do. Why delay starting the clock on getting your STS in the queue?
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Old 02-09-2025 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
I don’t mean to rain on your parade of thinking the Crew Assist folks don’t know but here it goes:

the knowledge they have of the PWA is based on their supervisor’s interpretations and in cases where it differs from ALPA it’s more than likely been mentioned to the higher ups but good luck getting them to disseminate this. Part 2, these answers to the pilots come from the same pool of folks that respond to the ALPA committee tasked with disputing via STS.
ah, so the crew assist people tasked with mitigating contract violations from turning into larger disputes have little training and knowledge for the job in which they are doing? Tell us something we didn’t already know.
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Old 02-09-2025 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
I don’t mean to rain on your parade of thinking the Crew Assist folks don’t know but here it goes:

the knowledge they have of the PWA is based on their supervisor’s interpretations and in cases where it differs from ALPA it’s more than likely been mentioned to the higher ups but good luck getting them to disseminate this. Part 2, these answers to the pilots come from the same pool of folks that respond to the ALPA committee tasked with disputing via STS.
Yea i'd agree with all that. My post wasn't meant to naively say "how could they possibly wrong me like that". I am just whining about how the c-assist inquirys are worthless for pay/trip issues. I'm not surprised at all.

Originally Posted by Gspeed
Fill them out at the same time. You can reasonably assume that crew assist will not fix anything, because they rarely do. Why delay starting the clock on getting your STS in the queue?
Yea I dropped them both in at the same time, just didn't know if a c-assist inquiry had to come back denied for it to be able to move up the food chain.
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