Where is this in the grievance process? I just looked over the grievance log on DALPA.org and don't see a grievance relating to this listed.

 

Reserve and CQ. Someone help me on this. If I am interpreting SRH pg 184 Reserve Obligations During Training literally, it would be true that I cannot be placed back on LC status later on in the day after the completion of day-2 of CQ?

I had two days of CQ directly followed by 3 days of LC. So, crew scheduler cannot call me and leave me a voicemail on a CQ day indicating my SC (the SC was properly assigned) for the following day has been removed and I now have a trip reporting the following day in less than 18hrs, right?

 

CS can call and leave a voicemail whenever they want to. But you can confidently ignore it/delete if the call came when you’re not in a contactable status. And you are never in a contactable status before midnight at the end of a CQ day. And LC after a CQ day is not subject to the 10-18 hour assignment cutout.

tl:dr On a LC day after CQ, and unless you YS something, you have no obligation to accept any report prior to 1800, and no earlier than 18 hours after proper notification (after midnight).

P.S. since reserve assignments happen a maximum of 2 days out, and CQ is at least 2 days long, no scenario exists where you would ever be obligated to report before 1800 on a LC day right after CQ. Unless you self-acknowledged and/or YS something.

 

Copy. To clarify, one should never see any LC period displayed/placed on a CQ day?

 

When you say the SC was properly assigned, how do you know this? You go back on long call at midnight or training completion plus 9 hours (whichever is later). You’re removed from reserve obligations on a training day.

There is no obligation to ascertain your schedule. They must contact you (CNO okay) for the short call DURING long call and the assignment must be 18+ hours from that call. So you won’t know it’s a proper reserve assignment until you check your schedule as a result of a call received on long call.

 

SRH pg 184. Right at the very top:

Reserve Obligations during Training

A pilot may not be scheduled to fly nor be on call during any portion of a training day.

...

Whether or not LC appears on your miCrew or iCrew schedule during a training day is irrelevant. If it does, it's just another software quirk that is inaccurate.

 

Apologies but kind of unrelated question. Been looking in PWA and trying to figure out how Velvet pays on an LC day. Feb I have 72 hour RG, Velvet on two LC days for 10 hours. Time card says 10 hours of velvet pay, and RG now 67:12. So 2 days of velvet on LC equal 77:12 hours of pay for the month?

Is that correct? no idea how the math works out on that. Any ideas? Thanks.

 

Velvet is similar to CQ or VAC in that it reduces your days of availability and thus your personal reserve guarantee, and it does not then pay a straight 5:00/day on top of the category RES guarantee. 77:12 is correct per the john bell pay calculator. Velvet does not go against your LC days though, so in order for the calculator to give you your accurate X day/LC day count you need to put the 2 days @ 5:00/day in one of the "Other (hmm for daily credit)" lines. 2 days of CQ adds roughly 5:00 to your pay for the month during reserve, and 2 days of Velvet does exactly the same.

Bonus: Velvet is just like training in that it is not rest, it is not a non-fly day, and you are completely not contactable during the footprint. Thus if you have LC immediately following Velvet you cannot be made to report before 1800 on that day, and scheduling must contact you after midnight when you resume LC to notify you.

 

you’re the man thanks. Yeah it’s a great deal. Extra 5 hours to likely burn 5 days of reserve (1 LC day before, 2 after) at the expense of whats essentially a commutable 2 day.

 

With positive space!