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12-11-2024 | 01:08 PM

#2651

Schwanker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Planetrain

My point is that the generally given use of non-contactable has been for commuters commuting in during their first 2 hours of SC, not for PhD-level SC masters trying to shirk an assignment, which has been the discussion the last 20 pages. You want to be a ninja, good! Go for it!! 👍 It’s not illegal. The provision is in the PWA. I’m not hating on you. The only thing I’m hating is the company change to max SC. That part sucks. It used to be better. Sorry if my language has confused the topic.

Well, under this generally given use, the commuter would shirk an assignment with a report in the first 2 hours, potentially to a local who didn't use this PWA NC tool who could have also avoided the assignment had he utilized the NC option. Can't blame the local for utilizing this provision as well.

12-11-2024 | 01:08 PM

#2652

tennisguru

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From: Pilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

What does the hive mind think about individuals who are WS'ing rotations with <18 hrs to report and insufficient SC coverage?

Maybe they already got G#1 and are still below the trigger.

12-11-2024 | 01:36 PM

#2653

notEnuf

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Joined: Mar 2015

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From: N60.4858 W149.9327

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

What does the hive mind think about individuals who are WS'ing rotations with <18 hrs to report and insufficient SC coverage?

You do you. Don't be surprised if that pizzez off someone else. (or you in the future) As a RES I don't care as long as somebody takes it before I have to do it.

12-11-2024 | 01:45 PM

#2654

Crazyernie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

What does the hive mind think about individuals who are WS'ing rotations with <18 hrs to report and insufficient SC coverage?

I drop half my line (or more) and pick up what I like regardless if it's less than 18 hours. The hive is free to do as they wish.

12-11-2024 | 01:57 PM

#2655

AirCoxswain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyernie

I drop half my line (or more) and pick up what I like regardless if it's less than 18 hours. The hive is free to do as they wish.

100%. If we as a pilot group want to make the WS pickup limit lower and the company goes along with it, then, it'll be lower. Until then, you have a right to pickup whatever to that limit.

Personally, I only WS to get above the GS trigger and I'm only willing to work for double pay. These days, I don't know who is so hard up for GSs.

12-11-2024 | 02:49 PM

#2656

80knotsV1rotate

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Joined: Apr 2022

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 170Till5

some people don’t care about the contract.. flew with a junior ER captain who YS all his trips to Europe inside 18 hours or anything decent. He can’t hold a line and wants to go to Europe so he takes what he can get inside 18 hours. Out of principle I won’t, but other people are effed being junior and can’t get anything good, so they just take the good stuff from the senior people because it’s the best they can do. People don’t value their time

The dude to which i am currently referring is 50% company wide. So that isn't an excuse.

12-11-2024 | 03:04 PM

#2657

ancman

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Joined: Jul 2022

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

What does the hive mind think about individuals who are WS'ing rotations with <18 hrs to report and insufficient SC coverage?

A GS doesn’t always pay more than a WS, for every pilot in every situation. If you’re well below the GS trigger and see a desirable rotation, then there’s almost no upside to waiting for it to possibly go out as a GS.

Negotiating a lower GS trigger would reduce some of this.

12-11-2024 | 04:07 PM

#2658

crewdawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

The dude to which i am currently referring is 50% company wide. So that isn't an excuse.

I'm senior to that and ultra senior in my seat. Our bid packet trips suck, so I drop everything and WS better/more efficient broken up trips. If nothing is going on I'll WS down to immediate reports. Reserve staffing doesn't even enter my crosscheck as im working my way back to the trigger. It's just another strategy. Why fly a 6 leg, 2 day when I could fly a 2 leg, 2 day with 17 hours TAFB?

12-11-2024 | 04:28 PM

#2659

Wolf424

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Joined: Dec 2019

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crewdawg

Why fly a 6 leg, 2 day when I could fly a 2 leg, 2 day with 17 hours TAFB?

Say it louder for the folks in the back.

I drop most of my schedule bc I can make a better schedule with broken trips, and that enhances my quality of life. Never once have I looked (or cared) at what reserve coverage/SC availability was.

12-11-2024 | 04:42 PM

#2660

DWC CAP10 USAF

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Joined: Apr 2016

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From: Looking left

Quote:

Originally Posted by 80knotsV1rotate

What does the hive mind think about individuals who are WS'ing rotations with <18 hrs to report and insufficient SC coverage?

I'm thinking they can becuase the PWA allows it, so don't worry about it.

Maybe they dropped some other rotations on their scheudle and now need to pick up some WS to get back to GS trigger. Maybe this notional WS is a broken up trip that starts and/or ends allowing a commuter to drive to the DH airport and fly the trip.

Maybe there is a boat-load of credit built into this notional WS.

And as Fangs said, my WS pays me more than your GS pays me.