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12-11-2024 | 05:00 PM

#2661

Nantonaku

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

I'm senior to that and ultra senior in my seat. Our bid packet trips suck, so I drop everything and WS better/more efficient broken up trips. If nothing is going on I'll WS down to immediate reports. Reserve staffing doesn't even enter my crosscheck as im working my way back to the trigger. It's just another strategy. Why fly a 6 leg, 2 day when I could fly a 2 leg, 2 day with 17 hours TAFB?

It seems like in most cases scheduling will manually cover trips as quickly as they can before they run through a PCS cycle. How can you WS a trip with an immediate report?

12-11-2024 | 05:11 PM

#2662

cencal83406

Line Holder

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Originally Posted by Nantonaku

It seems like in most cases scheduling will manually cover trips as quickly as they can before they run through a PCS cycle. How can you WS a trip with an immediate report?

what step of coverage is white slip?

12-11-2024 | 05:30 PM

#2663

ancman

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Originally Posted by Nantonaku

It seems like in most cases scheduling will manually cover trips as quickly as they can before they run through a PCS cycle. How can you WS a trip with an immediate report?

By submitting a white slip for the rotation, or a blanket white slip, prior to the time at which the scheduler pulls a trip coverage report. No PCS run is necessary for a WS to be awarded.

12-11-2024 | 05:38 PM

#2664

m3113n1a1

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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad

This just shows me you were not involved with the fired RD in NYC…..

Nope...but I heard a lot about him, even from the west coast!

12-11-2024 | 06:11 PM

#2665

crewdawg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nantonaku

It seems like in most cases scheduling will manually cover trips as quickly as they can before they run through a PCS cycle. How can you WS a trip with an immediate report?

I always have a blanket WS in for trips that meet my desires. WS are higher on the list than reserves, yellow and green, so a WS will will always be called first. Besides past the 0700 pcs 2 days out, a WS won't be processed on a PCS (though a Swap will until the day prior), so it wouldn't matter if it hit a pcs or not. Trips inside of two days, up to immediate, will be labeled with just a W.

12-11-2024 | 06:41 PM

#2666

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

I always have a blanket WS in for trips that meet my desires. WS are higher on the list than reserves, yellow and green, so a WS will will always be called first. Besides past the 0700 pcs 2 days out, a WS won't be processed on a PCS (though a Swap will until the day prior), so it wouldn't matter if it hit a pcs or not. Trips inside of two days, up to immediate, will be labeled with just a W.

For anyone new or uninitiated, this cannot be overemphasized. GS are always a proffer, so you can have 1 slip in for the whole month that will catch every opportunity in the net. But for a WS to remain a proffer (can turn it down), you have to have a separate slip in for a 1-day, than a 2-day, than a 3-day, then a... And you have to change your slips every day (to roll to the next day) if you want to be open to the proffer trips via ARCOS. If you are new and don't understand any of that, ask someone to help explain it. Otherwise, if you put in just a blanket WS covering the whole month, you are going to get slammed with at least one, if not several trips you don't want, and can't turn down. Don't learn that lesson the hard way...

12-11-2024 | 06:50 PM

#2667

Whoopsmybad

Can’t find crew pickup

Joined: Jun 2021

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Originally Posted by 170Till5

some people don’t care about the contract.. flew with a junior ER captain who YS all his trips to Europe inside 18 hours or anything decent. He can’t hold a line and wants to go to Europe so he takes what he can get inside 18 hours. Out of principle I won’t, but other people are effed being junior and can’t get anything good, so they just take the good stuff from the senior people because it’s the best they can do. People don’t value their time

It’s that pilots right within the contract, who are you to question motives? And why do you say they don’t value their time? Because they picked up a Europe instead of waiting on a domestic?

12-11-2024 | 06:58 PM

#2668

Crazyernie

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Joined: Jan 2015

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Originally Posted by Wolf424

I drop most of my schedule bc I can make a better schedule with broken trips, and that enhances my quality of life. Never once have I looked (or cared) at what reserve coverage/SC availability was.

I'm not seeing your point. Are you advocating for willfully worsening one person's schedule just so someone else gets a green slip? Good luck with that. My monthly credit varies a lot depending on juggling other life responsibilities. Yeah.. don't care if that bothers you.

12-12-2024 | 01:00 AM

#2669

170Till5

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad

It’s that pilots right within the contract, who are you to question motives? And why do you say they don’t value their time? Because they picked up a Europe instead of waiting on a domestic?

not gonna work my off days for straight time or pick up on reserve and work for free if I don’t have to. If that floats your boat, knock yourself out

12-12-2024 | 04:52 AM

#2670

Whoopsmybad

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Originally Posted by 170Till5

not gonna work my off days for straight time or pick up on reserve and work for free if I don’t have to. If that floats your boat, knock yourself out

I didn’t say it was me, but I don’t understand the hate. Per your example, YS a Europe <18 hours. But what was in the pot for the next day? 4 day domestics? Uncommutable trips? Or maybe they just like going to Europe for 24 hours? To each their own, just because they don’t do what you would does not mean they are wrong.

Last edited by Whoopsmybad; 12-12-2024 at 05:11 AM.