Originally Posted by Hubcapped

working at delta is was a choice MANY MOONS AGO.

Originally Posted by game

Boxing is considered the most physical sport, followed by Ice Hockey.

Originally Posted by Hubcapped

purposefully leaving people stranded at an outstation for an extra night is a choice………

all kidding aside this is kind of a sh1t approach. Dont let someone elses lack of integrity make you join them in the gutter. Cards, good byes, hat, whatever…….but actively tanking the operation and affecting people that have nothing to do with our trials and tribulations is pretty low brow. Yes the company needs to fix our pay. Yes it is theft. Yes we need alpa to hit them with a hammer.

and before you respond with “but the company” reread what I wrote and then tell me the justification for stranding people where they dont want to be

Originally Posted by sailingfun

One of their things I found over the years was how a pilot performed on the job rarely ever changed. Those doing the minimum or less however always had some ever changing reason why be it contract negotiations, pay issue, bad reroute the prior month ect…

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

It didn't used to be this bad and well in the past we didn't exist in such a broken relationship. Probably well before you were hired (I'm assuming you relatively new here like ~10 years or so). However, being apathetic about it concerns me. You folks should be concerned about this reshuffling. It's truly a very antagonistic group that they've moved around to key positions in Flt Ops.

You can have all the resolve you want. However, they control your day to day life when on the job and they can make your life pretty miserable along the way. Sure, we can grieve it. But where has that gotten us? Recall the infamous "it's not a grievance until the arbitrator says so". So unless, until, that process runs out, our lives while on the job (and to some extent off time) become pretty unsavory. Going back to your tenure here, perhaps you don't recognize the names that were moved in to key positions or their history. Nothing about these moves is a good thing for this pilot group.

Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

Yeah, this is a weird flex. I don't really pay attention to uniform wear. My FOs are generally in compliance the occasional NF jacket on to do the walk around in a Blizzard. I'm good with that. If you don't want to wear your hat I don't care.

I'd really like to see how this thing fleshes out. My guess is once they start paying people 10:30 to be counseled that's gonna tone down pretty quick. Also I'm curious on how they're gonna enforce this. They don't have the personnel in the CP offices to walk the terminals. Maybe in ATL? Or are they gonna unleash the LCAs on us? That'll be a really bad move to pit the pilot group and the LCAs against one another.
It's far past time for a hats off campaign. We need to start this ASAP. MEC are you listening

Originally Posted by notEnuf

This is why I will never ...

Originally Posted by Ragtop Day

It’s going to be hard to enforce uniform standards when nobody really knows what the correct uniform is anymore.

Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad

FFS, though, you are just trying to rock the NF, at least ditch the hat too.

Originally Posted by notEnuf

Being apathetic is the only response. What would you have us do or feel about it? I expect management (by evidence in my 3 airline career) to make these types of moves and to generally be adversarial. The last PWA cycle has been particularly retaliatory and we all see it. These are business decisions Delta leadership has made and we and they will live with the consequences regardless. The timing going into section 6 makes me think it will be intentionally prolonged and difficult. As expected.