Global Scope AIP reached
05-16-2022 | 08:56 AM
#31
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All this makes absolutely no sense. A WB job is a WB job. While the agreement is global based there will be some level of theatre protection. In the Grand Scheme of things this Agreement provides:
Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
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Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
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05-16-2022 | 08:57 AM
#33
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Some level? What that means is vital to deciding whether or not this is a good deal for us. Without absolute protections and iron clad language, which we do not have a history of getting, I will not vote yes. Tired of the "we'll get them next time," or "we didn't think they'd do that" narrative coming up time and time again. I will wait to see the specifics, but color me skeptical.
05-16-2022 | 09:02 AM
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IMO it’s the most important piece of the contract. And I like that we’re deciding on it before the “TA”. Whenever that comes. It’s interesting though; the movement is sudden. Coincidence with UAL getting an AIP?? Read between the lines I guess…
05-16-2022 | 09:03 AM
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Do Delta pilots not know how to read?
The path forward includes:
When contractual language is finalized, the TA will be provided to your elected union representatives for a seven-day review (per the MEC Policy Manual).
The MEC will review, discuss and vote on the TA while in session (either at the June Regular Meeting in MSP or a Special MEC Meeting).
If the MEC votes to approve the TA, it will be sent to the pilots for membership ratification. A multi-faceted communications plan will commence (Negotiators’ Notepad, Virtual Town Hall, FAQs, podcast, etc.).
This agreement has been reached independently from the current Section 6 negotiations. This provides Delta pilots the opportunity to evaluate whether the agreement stands on its own merits.
You, the line pilot, will ultimately decide whether the new scope language becomes part of our PWA.
I'm not explaining to you how your nonsensical post makes no sense. Your further post about Memrat shows you haven't even read the Union update and here you are making nonsensical theatre drawdown hypotheticals
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The path forward includes:
When contractual language is finalized, the TA will be provided to your elected union representatives for a seven-day review (per the MEC Policy Manual).
The MEC will review, discuss and vote on the TA while in session (either at the June Regular Meeting in MSP or a Special MEC Meeting).
If the MEC votes to approve the TA, it will be sent to the pilots for membership ratification. A multi-faceted communications plan will commence (Negotiators’ Notepad, Virtual Town Hall, FAQs, podcast, etc.).
This agreement has been reached independently from the current Section 6 negotiations. This provides Delta pilots the opportunity to evaluate whether the agreement stands on its own merits.
You, the line pilot, will ultimately decide whether the new scope language becomes part of our PWA.
I'm not explaining to you how your nonsensical post makes no sense. Your further post about Memrat shows you haven't even read the Union update and here you are making nonsensical theatre drawdown hypotheticals
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05-16-2022 | 09:04 AM
#36
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Everything I've read says they have been very close to wrapping up this deal for a while. Seems like a lot of movement happened early this year. I don't think the United AIP had any relevance to this deal closing. I see it affecting the rest of section 6 in a much more meaningful way (either good or bad) once more details are known about it.
05-16-2022 | 09:05 AM
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Some level? What that means is vital to deciding whether or not this is a good deal for us. Without absolute protections and iron clad language, which we do not have a history of getting, I will not vote yes. Tired of the "we'll get them next time," or "we didn't think they'd do that" narrative coming up time and time again. I will wait to see the specifics, but color me skeptical.
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05-16-2022 | 09:12 AM
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Don't you have a belt loader to climb? Don't forget your backpack in the cockpit next time.
Unless there's theater protections this needs to go down in flames. No question management will just rearrange the chess pieces. Big difference between SCL and ICN or HND in terms of WB jobs.
"Didn't think they'd do that. We'll get 'em next time".
05-16-2022 | 09:14 AM
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All this makes absolutely no sense. A WB job is a WB job. While the agreement is global based there will be some level of theatre protection. In the Grand Scheme of things this Agreement provides:
Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk
Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk
05-16-2022 | 09:17 AM
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I am not the least bit confident, given our specific history and my 27 years of experience with 3 different airlines. I will reserve final judgement until I see the language, but given what they’ve written thus far, this will likely be an easy no vote.
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