Global Scope AIP reached
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#24
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Global based lumps all the Widebody JV into one and guarantees one for one growth. It simplifies the previous theatre based structure and allows the company to grow WB flying where it makes the most money while still maintaining some level of theatre protection. Downside is if a particular pilot likes a specific kind of WB flying that is reduced to fly elsewhere more profitly ie current Pacific flying they might be alittle aggravated.
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#25
OK. Everything you said is a win for management and not the pilots and is not complete. If they only have to do say 50% global Delta flying then they can draw market A to zero and an equal size B to 100% vs if every market has to be at least 50% and the company needs market B to be 100% Delta for whatever reason and market A is required to stay 50% Delta then that is a loss of many pilot jobs under the Global market plan. I don’t see this as a win for Delta pilots but a big win for management. But the jobs based remedy MAY make it worth it.
Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
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#26
Let's suppose that Asia comes roaring back but South America is in the toilet. With this, and clearly I've not seen specific language, the company could easily show that overall JV flying is down and thus would not need to add jobs all while Korean is growing like crazy. Unless there are specific theater protections, this shouldn't pass. We have a tendency to overlook things and then wring our hands when it bites us later. I'm hopeful, but without specific language that protects us in all theaters so they can't just move chess pieces around to keep our flying low, it's a hard no.
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All this makes absolutely no sense. A WB job is a WB job. While the agreement is global based there will be some level of theatre protection. In the Grand Scheme of things this Agreement provides:
Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
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Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
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#28
The path forward includes:
When contractual language is finalized, the TA will be provided to your elected union representatives for a seven-day review (per the MEC Policy Manual).
The MEC will review, discuss and vote on the TA while in session (either at the June Regular Meeting in MSP or a Special MEC Meeting).
If the MEC votes to approve the TA, it will be sent to the pilots for membership ratification. A multi-faceted communications plan will commence (Negotiators’ Notepad, Virtual Town Hall, FAQs, podcast, etc.).
This agreement has been reached independently from the current Section 6 negotiations. This provides Delta pilots the opportunity to evaluate whether the agreement stands on its own merits.
You, the line pilot, will ultimately decide whether the new scope language becomes part of our PWA.
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All this makes absolutely no sense. A WB job is a WB job. While the agreement is global based there will be some level of theatre protection. In the Grand Scheme of things this Agreement provides:
Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
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Delta reestablish pre COVID WB flying levels
Combined JV partner WB growth one for one with Delta WB Metal
Immediate job based penalties for non compliance that is measured quarter by quarter with no cure period
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#30
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It should be noted that these outside-of-section-6 global scope negotiations have been going on since before the pandemic. I have no idea what kicked it off and who wanted it as a separate deal but it’s been clear all along that there would be a global scope TA with memrat and a full section 6 TA as well.
If you read the company’s update they still had to negotiate other items outside the global scope deal in order to fully close section 1, so this deal isn’t even the entirety of section 1, but rather a key cornerstone for building scope upon.
If you read the company’s update they still had to negotiate other items outside the global scope deal in order to fully close section 1, so this deal isn’t even the entirety of section 1, but rather a key cornerstone for building scope upon.
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