Delta Pilot Intimidation
01-20-2026 | 05:13 AM
#281
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01-20-2026 | 05:16 AM
#282
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From: NYC 7ERA
Pre-Covid I was on the 767-400 in NY, and had the opposite experience. Immediate family member (but not under my roof) had a auto accident with a suspected brain injury. CPO, said “GO, now! Do you need help getting a flight home?” They even followed up a day to two later and asked if I needed more time off (was a PD though).
So I think it can vary with the time period and/or CP team. 🤷♂️
So I think it can vary with the time period and/or CP team. 🤷♂️
And yes, theres a lot of things that how it goes are basically dumb luck with who you get in the CPO. Which is why I want some protection for ground commuting in the contract. Not left to "please let the CP on duty be one of the reasonable ones"
01-20-2026 | 05:42 AM
#283
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Pre-Covid I was on the 767-400 in NY, and had the opposite experience. Immediate family member (but not under my roof) had a auto accident with a suspected brain injury. CPO, said “GO, now! Do you need help getting a flight home?” They even followed up a day to two later and asked if I needed more time off (was a PD though).
So I think it can vary with the time period and/or CP team. 🤷♂️
So I think it can vary with the time period and/or CP team. 🤷♂️
01-20-2026 | 06:10 AM
#284
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This was spring 2018, NYC 7ER.
And yes, theres a lot of things that how it goes are basically dumb luck with who you get in the CPO. Which is why I want some protection for ground commuting in the contract. Not left to "please let the CP on duty be one of the reasonable ones"
And yes, theres a lot of things that how it goes are basically dumb luck with who you get in the CPO. Which is why I want some protection for ground commuting in the contract. Not left to "please let the CP on duty be one of the reasonable ones"
01-20-2026 | 06:29 AM
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Agreed.
ASAPs only provide shielding from FAA certificate actions, not from company consequences.
As a side note, ASAPs don't provide protection from deliberate falsifications. Which, as I understand it, is what the company is targeting. That is to say, using sick leave as PTO (I've flown with plenty who've explicitly called it PTO and they intend to use it now that GFC are gone).
ASAPs are weak sauce for this.
ASAPs only provide shielding from FAA certificate actions, not from company consequences.
As a side note, ASAPs don't provide protection from deliberate falsifications. Which, as I understand it, is what the company is targeting. That is to say, using sick leave as PTO (I've flown with plenty who've explicitly called it PTO and they intend to use it now that GFC are gone).
ASAPs are weak sauce for this.
”GFC” is not gone. (I’m assuming you mean GFB.)
You’re incorrect on ASAPs providing no protection from company discipline as well. Regardless, you’ve been here long enough to see the company attempt discipline for sick calls and fail miserably (see the Harris ruling, ATL 03-09). If the company attempts discipline again, not only will it not stick, but it will further galvanize the pilot group against them and cost far more in the long run.
01-20-2026 | 06:59 AM
#286
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I've had to call off for childcare/family illness. The vast majority of the interactions have been incredible, except one. It was one of the most disrespectful interactions I've ever had here with someone who was stunningly ignorant of even the most basic concepts on how PD/APDs work.
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01-20-2026 | 07:14 AM
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It'd be for way more things though. Think dropping a trip with pay, that odd emergency that isn't technically covered under 'sick', padding vacay time, etc. Similar to our bank now, but accrued each pay check. In my view it'd roll over each year and probably be capped.
01-20-2026 | 07:14 AM
#289
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That does not apply to all bases.
Though if the company is forced to give a benefit to one base due to state laws, it really should be forced to give it to all. My opinion only obviously. Of course if there are any downside issues, well I don’t want those!
Though if the company is forced to give a benefit to one base due to state laws, it really should be forced to give it to all. My opinion only obviously. Of course if there are any downside issues, well I don’t want those!
01-20-2026 | 07:18 AM
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seems like people should vote for better state laws
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