Delta Pilot Intimidation
#351
#353
The pilots don't care.
And you think management will just not order planes, and sabotage their network plan, because of what some employees do?
I don't know what it was like in C2012, but I'm sure that environment looks nothing like today (mainly, not having fresh bankruptcy scars that likely drove some of this psychology).
#354
Shiny jet carrots work on regional pilot groups because having flying means survival of the company. This is significant when mainline can pull your flying at any given moment. There's no reason for mainline pilots to care about new jets.
#355
Line Holder
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Mainline pilots, with 100+ 717s dangled in front of them, seemed to care a whole bunch when C12 was negotiated in 2mos and ratified 7mos early. Read your Contract History document by ALPA.
#356
Gets Weekends Off
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And I agree with the other posters, they can try that SJS crap here but it's not going to work with the majority of this group. They need the jets more than we do that's for sure.
#357
Roll’n Thunder
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From: Pilot
#358
Is there more to this than just Shiny Jet Syndrome? I have a hard time believing this is all there is to the story...
#359
It does not matter.
The pilots don't care.
And you think management will just not order planes, and sabotage their network plan, because of what some employees do?
I don't know what it was like in C2012, but I'm sure that environment looks nothing like today (mainly, not having fresh bankruptcy scars that likely drove some of this psychology).
The pilots don't care.
And you think management will just not order planes, and sabotage their network plan, because of what some employees do?
I don't know what it was like in C2012, but I'm sure that environment looks nothing like today (mainly, not having fresh bankruptcy scars that likely drove some of this psychology).
https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...aft-order.html
#360
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Not just C2012. Don’t forget about the C2015 TA1/2 ultimatum about 737-900er and the used E-195s.
It’s a shame they didn’t “champion the concept of no concessions” with all those turd contracts we are talking about here.
Half the pilot group has no idea what we are even talking about and thinks that failing to achieve pre-ordered crew meals in C2019 was a “concession”
It’s a shame they didn’t “champion the concept of no concessions” with all those turd contracts we are talking about here.
Half the pilot group has no idea what we are even talking about and thinks that failing to achieve pre-ordered crew meals in C2019 was a “concession”
Last edited by FangsF15; 01-24-2026 at 03:36 AM.
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