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#1441
2018 was peak delta? From whose perspective? Shareholders were wiped out during covid and only now are above water but TVM bit them in the capital allocation shorts if they held. Customers are still lining up and we have more now and way more revenue. Management has the same industry pedestal and has gained handsomely since 2018. I'm making double what I did 8 years ago. The only metric or perspective you can claim is operational performance and A+ to A- is not the failing you think it is. This doesn't mean I don't think it needs fixing but chicken little is jealous.
#1442
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“Tracking may RR up to the FAR un-extended limit (Section 12 D. 2. (not to exceed 13 hours) & 12 D. 3. Tables)
When you received the RR, your total time on duty (first block of time on the PWA line on your rotation) must be scheduled to be less than the un-extended FAR Duty limit on your rotation (the line containing “Last Acclimated City & Rest Class”); the un-extended FAR limit is the first number on this line
If the RR is legal when assigned, as explained above, and there are subsequent delays that require an FDP extension, the RR is still considered legal because you were delayed into an extension, not re-routed into an extension”
#1443
Sounds like a big issue if he had to extend for the reroute…unless it delayed after he was assigned the reroute.
“Tracking may RR up to the FAR un-extended limit (Section 12 D. 2. (not to exceed 13 hours) & 12 D. 3. Tables)
When you received the RR, your total time on duty (first block of time on the PWA line on your rotation) must be scheduled to be less than the un-extended FAR Duty limit on your rotation (the line containing “Last Acclimated City & Rest Class”); the un-extended FAR limit is the first number on this line
If the RR is legal when assigned, as explained above, and there are subsequent delays that require an FDP extension, the RR is still considered legal because you were delayed into an extension, not re-routed into an extension”
“Tracking may RR up to the FAR un-extended limit (Section 12 D. 2. (not to exceed 13 hours) & 12 D. 3. Tables)
When you received the RR, your total time on duty (first block of time on the PWA line on your rotation) must be scheduled to be less than the un-extended FAR Duty limit on your rotation (the line containing “Last Acclimated City & Rest Class”); the un-extended FAR limit is the first number on this line
If the RR is legal when assigned, as explained above, and there are subsequent delays that require an FDP extension, the RR is still considered legal because you were delayed into an extension, not re-routed into an extension”
#1444
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Joined: Oct 2020
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no. It wasn’t illegal when he got it. We ended up being super late and he sat at the airport for 4 hours. We even held. Then landed. And I thought there was a 0% chance this guy would have any time remaining. And right when we init got the “text FDP accept to xxxxx” and he did it.
Not my dog. Not my fight. Stupid move though.
Not my dog. Not my fight. Stupid move though.
#1446
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Joined: Sep 2023
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From: Former Hooterville
A friendly reminder, most of the time you cannot extend, PERIOD. There is a small carve out that if the situation is “unforseeable”, which is actually defined.
Unforeseen operational circumstance means an unplanned event of insufficient duration to allow for adjustments to schedules, including unforecast weather, equipment malfunction, or air traffic delay that is not reasonably expected.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/117.3
A reroute and or thunderstorms in the TAF don’t count.
Unforeseen operational circumstance means an unplanned event of insufficient duration to allow for adjustments to schedules, including unforecast weather, equipment malfunction, or air traffic delay that is not reasonably expected.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/117.3
A reroute and or thunderstorms in the TAF don’t count.
#1447
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Joined: Sep 2023
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From: Former Hooterville
2018 was peak delta? From whose perspective? Shareholders were wiped out during covid and only now are above water but TVM bit them in the capital allocation shorts if they held. Customers are still lining up and we have more now and way more revenue. Management has the same industry pedestal and has gained handsomely since 2018. I'm making double what I did 8 years ago. The only metric or perspective you can claim is operational performance and A+ to A- is not the failing you think it is. This doesn't mean I don't think it needs fixing but chicken little is jealous.
#1448
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Joined: Dec 2022
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2018 was peak delta? From whose perspective? Shareholders were wiped out during covid and only now are above water but TVM bit them in the capital allocation shorts if they held. Customers are still lining up and we have more now and way more revenue. Management has the same industry pedestal and has gained handsomely since 2018. I'm making double what I did 8 years ago. The only metric or perspective you can claim is operational performance and A+ to A- is not the failing you think it is. This doesn't mean I don't think it needs fixing but chicken little is jealous.
#1449
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Joined: Aug 2025
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#1450
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2023
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2018 was peak delta? From whose perspective? Shareholders were wiped out during covid and only now are above water but TVM bit them in the capital allocation shorts if they held. Customers are still lining up and we have more now and way more revenue. Management has the same industry pedestal and has gained handsomely since 2018. I'm making double what I did 8 years ago. The only metric or perspective you can claim is operational performance and A+ to A- is not the failing you think it is. This doesn't mean I don't think it needs fixing but chicken little is jealous.
Don't lose perspective here.
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