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Old 04-25-2026 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by compressor
My lord, 13 pages of pilots making things more complicated than they need to be. We can eff up a wet dream. Enjoy the free drink/meal, twist some knobs, and go home
It is VERY D Air(space)Lines-esque

Originally Posted by DeltaboundRedux
The wheel will turn.

It always does.
As will the earth……

Originally Posted by rickair7777
Since inquiring minds want to know, oofff got another of many routine infractions and exceeded the system threshold for a perma ban.

The system will auto-ban you for excess active points and also exceeding some number of total infractions.
Just an observation, but it seemed said user was often cut a lot of slack. Even when criticizing YOU.

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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
Is that what happened to the forum know-it-all Burke, too? Been a while since he was here to call everyone a liar who disagreed with him.
He was, the most interesting pilot on APC……..
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Old 04-26-2026 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
This is kind of why I don't want to fly a WB here. The peer pressure to hangout on overnights seems like a lot. And if one declines, it seems like you all gang up and think said pilot is a weirdo.

See: last few pages of this thread for evidence.
It’s not peer pressure at all, IMO. It’s just an observation of what almost always happened in my experience.

Peer pressure would have been meeting early for drinks at the hotel bar, which I almost never did. I never felt pressured or side-eyed for it.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I read HK’s comments as coming from multiple observations, not just ‘getting ditched’ for a computer game. It was an accumulation of things. Ask around, WB crews are way more relaxed on the whole.
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Old 04-26-2026 | 03:49 AM
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Agree with above, I never once felt pressured to do anything on a layover. Then again, I was always down to go out and about with the crew. I'm generally extroverted/social person and I found going out with the crew is what made international layovers so much fun. Sometimes I'd roll on my own, never heard a word other than what did you get into on the layover.

I never avoided a Captain because i was never going to let someone dictate what trips I flew. So I'd never let something ridiculous like perceived peer pressure, keep me from bidding a seat.
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Old 04-26-2026 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Are there not relief lines anymore? Usually never fly and never see the same crew long enough to hang out.
We've never had "relief lines."
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Old 04-26-2026 | 06:53 AM
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On one of my first WB trips, the captain went to a Subway for dinner. I’ve had captains go to McDonalds before. I know pilots that go to Denny’s instead of the hotel breakfast in HND to save $5. I don’t know why this is a generational argument.

I don’t see the appeal to go eat dinner and have drinks at 4am body clock time. To then get a crap nights sleep before another craps night sleep. So, most the time I just bail. I’d rather go on a cool hike. Sometimes, I never leave the room because I have other stuff to do. I’m probably weird.

As for tipping, I really don’t know why we do it. I’m pretty sure they are tipped via contract in their home currency. I do it, but it’s more bc everyone else is. I’ve recently learned that is some places it’s very hard to exchange US dollars unless they are in perfect condition. Not a dirty wadded up $1.
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Old 04-26-2026 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tripled
bro that’s bussin no cap?
good time? Say less, sigma rizz.
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Old 04-26-2026 | 08:40 AM
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As a Gen X'er that had spent a staggering amount of time gaming as a younger person, but has so little time to do it at home anymore due to parenthood and adulting.... layovers are my last bastion to enjoy one of my favorite pastimes. Granted this mostly takes place in the 'villes and the 'burgs
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Old 04-26-2026 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Finally got to experience my first Gen Z FO. Pretty rare in my fleet...

Didn't tip the bus driver....heck, even all the F/A's did and they make 1/16th of what he's pulling in. Offered to go to dinner. Declined - no biggie, but our language speaker had made reservations for all of us at a very cool, out of the way local place. It was fantastic BTW. All of us (minus 1) had a superb evening.

Met up for the van to head out and asked him if he did anything cool or interesting on the LAYO. He said he played video games.....ok, yeah, well..... Dude, life is too short, get out and enjoy it while still vertical.
Yet he figured out early how to chillax on a WB to be fed and rest while collecting bank early in his career. Smart guy. How HE uses HIS time doesn't matter. The weekly family gathering tradition is dead. I will be glad for it if (probably never) I go back to WB LH flying. It was a result of being stuck together in the situation, now there are soooo many ways to research and plan things to do on your own prior, even join a gaming tournament from anywhere on the planet when it starts. Not a gamer but I have high school and college kids, web life is a thing.
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Old 04-26-2026 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

I do care. I care about the person(s) occupying the flight deck and their mental state. It's important to me, and anti-social behavior seems to be a symptom of many mental maladies (alliteration intended)

Physician, heal thyself.


Main Character Syndrome
Key Characteristics:

Self-Centered Perspective: Viewing oneself as the central figure of their life's narrative.
Narrative Framing: Viewing everyday life as a movie or fictional story.
Attention-Seeking: Need for validation and creating drama to make life seem more important.
Lack of Empathy: Viewing others as supporting characters or "non-player characters" (NPCs).

Related Psychological Concepts:
While not in the DSM-5, the behaviors often align with traits of other recognized disorders, including:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD): Marked by grandiosity, a need for admiration, and lack of empathy.
Histrionic Personality Disorder: Characterized by excessive attention-seeking and dramatic behaviors.
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Old 04-26-2026 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
We've never had "relief lines."
Well considering the last time I was doing international we had 6 day FO trips where each leg was with a different crew, it sure felt like a relief line.
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