Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1245406)

Of course they are "allowed" to expand wherever and whenever they want, as much as they want. Good for them. But it very much becomes our say when that expansion is done with DL code. As for the 8.6 pax stat, I'm sure that includes every single AS and Horizon city pair, including some of the really obscure ones, which they have a lot of. JB can fill a 320, 2 in the summer, NYC to BOS, but DL can't, but dumps pax in AS instead? Several airlines can take part in thousands and thousands of seats a day SEA-LA but DL can't do a single flight and dumps people onto AS?

I'd be more than happy with the code share if we just limited it to 8.6 pax per flight. Heck, let's round it up to 9. There are some flights that are getting 35-50% DL pax and some of those markets are large ultra high density markets with good frequency and DL management is using AS as a DCI style crutch so it doesn't have to spend money running an airline and can instead build its virtual travel agency brand. That should be unacceptable to this pilot group.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1245370)

I can read your blathering no more. Do you seriously think that UCal is gonna get the more restrictive CAL scope? If you do, how much of a paycut do you think they are gonna have to get it? Or are you naive enough to seriously believe that coworker Jeff (love that term) is just gonna give it to them because it is the right thing to do?

Come on ftb.. you are much smarter than this.

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1245378)

1305EDT - All As are out by the front door. Better to be a front door man!

Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1245421)

some Bs are out via the double backdoor:
backdoor the award page which shows the A's (ok it's directly linkable now via Deltanet)
then click on a wide report for your category of A, then replace the A with a B in the URL and resubmit.

Reserve went pretty senior in my cat, 7 dudes above me bid reserve and usually no one does.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1245406)

Of course they are "allowed" to expand wherever and whenever they want, as much as they want. Good for them. But it very much becomes our say when that expansion is done with DL code. As for the 8.6 pax stat, I'm sure that includes every single AS and Horizon city pair, including some of the really obscure ones, which they have a lot of. JB can fill a 320, 2 in the summer, SEA to BOS, but DL can't, but dumps pax in AS instead? Several airlines can take part in thousands and thousands of seats a day SEA-LA but DL can't do a single flight and dumps people onto AS?

I'd be more than happy with the code share if we just limited it to 8.6 pax per flight. Heck, let's round it up to 9. There are some flights that are getting 35-50% DL pax and some of those markets are large ultra high density markets with good frequency and DL management is using AS as a DCI style crutch so it doesn't have to spend money running an airline and can instead build its virtual travel agency brand. That should be unacceptable to this pilot group.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1245413)

Tsquare, I get that you think pay trumps scope.

You've been very peevish and clear on that point for a long time.

I get it.

What I don't get, given how you've posted in recent months, why you think I would give a damn about what you can stomach to read or what you write?

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1245370)

I can read your blathering no more. Do you seriously think that UCal is gonna get the more restrictive CAL scope? If you do, how much of a paycut do you think they are gonna have to get it?

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1245429)

Quite the contrary. Unlike you, I recognize that the document is both a living one, and connected in all sections. You seem to think that scope trumps everything. Sorry, but not everybody will sacrifice so that YOU can get to your captain seat a little sooner. Compromise is required of us all, and no matter how many pretty pictures of RJs you post, no matter how many cute little plays you write, that changes nothing. It makes you look like a pouty little boy.

I couldn't care less what you think, but your incessant whining about this is getting really old. Why don't you grow up a little?

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1245216)

In the end American is not going anywhere. Delta will do what they can to raise the cost of AMR getting out of chapter 11 as AMR has done to Delta in many transactions. Delta will not get any real part of AMR. They will emerge from bankruptcy like everyone else. If they merge with USAIR I suspect they will control the transaction not Parker.