Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
12-12-2012 | 07:46 PM
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The American pilots just about blew themselves up in this bankruptcy, they managed finally to pull their butts out of the bonfire at the last minute. So I am labeled an arrogant prick when I try to tell them the way the world is rather than the way they want it to be. Maybe there is now some ex post facto consolation from the fact that they did exactly what I said they should do. I don't for a minute think my advice changed their union, but is it arrogant to give an opinion that proves correct, even it is just on a web board?
"Prick" seems pretty harsh. You're being a little too hard on yourself. But it is somewhat arrogant to continue claiming your opinion was correct when it clearly wasn't.
They did NOT do what you said they should do. You told the AA pilots to cave. You told them 1113 rejection would be a disaster, a contractual death sentence.
Ex post facto your "advice" was proven 180 degrees wrong.
You can argue whether its substandard and not much better than earlier offers, but the fact is they have a new contract. 1113 was nothing but a speed bump.
12-12-2012 | 07:47 PM
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Saw that too. Makes me wonder if we have had that much attrition since the 2000 hired in 2010 or if it is for another reason. Lord knows it takes longer to train a pilot than a FA so hire some of us already 
Oh thanks again to all who helped with my training questions. Always one of the best places to find obscure info.
Oh thanks again to all who helped with my training questions. Always one of the best places to find obscure info.
12-12-2012 | 07:49 PM
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That's hardly the way it is, alfa... and you know it.
You take a swing, and I swing back and vice versa. When has your opinion every been suppressed on here? Many times your "facts" that you spew are laced with as many untruths as you accuse others of throwing.
You aren't attacked by me because of your position- When you're right, I acknowledge it. It is because of your attitude.
You take a swing, and I swing back and vice versa. When has your opinion every been suppressed on here? Many times your "facts" that you spew are laced with as many untruths as you accuse others of throwing.
You aren't attacked by me because of your position- When you're right, I acknowledge it. It is because of your attitude.
Then dispute him with facts not innuendo!!!
Denny
12-12-2012 | 07:50 PM
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FWIW, the new 8K is showing the same mainline hull increase myself and others pointed out that some have been arguing won't happen.
Here's to hiring and mainline jobs added!
They are REALLY touting the AM(provides 20% of DL's revenue), GOL (provides 20% of DL's traffic on our Brazil routes), and VA codeshares and system capacity neutrality.
They are sure running a well functioning business, no doubting that.
Here's to hiring and mainline jobs added!
They are REALLY touting the AM(provides 20% of DL's revenue), GOL (provides 20% of DL's traffic on our Brazil routes), and VA codeshares and system capacity neutrality.
They are sure running a well functioning business, no doubting that.
12-12-2012 | 07:51 PM
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12-12-2012 | 07:56 PM
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12-12-2012 | 08:03 PM
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In case you Delta dudes haven't heard here's some good news for you. Delta just opened the hiring window for FAs who should be on the line by June, 2013...... Fresh meat!!!
12-12-2012 | 08:07 PM
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Had lunch with a FedEx guy today who happened to be hired there the same month I was hired at NWA. He's very senior on the right seat of the 777 and could hold capt on the A300 if he wanted. I'm years away from being able to hold captain on anything anywhere at Delta or getting near the right seat of the 777 or 747. My relative category seniority for ATL M88B will be about the same as his in MEM 777B. Also have buds at SWA hired the same timeframe who have been capts for several years and a bud hired at Continental who just upgraded to 757 capt.
Just gets old hearing from Sailing et al how much better we are doing than everybody else when it sure doesn't feel that way and my W2 lags so far behind those of my contemporaries at other airlines. My whine and moan for the day.
Just gets old hearing from Sailing et al how much better we are doing than everybody else when it sure doesn't feel that way and my W2 lags so far behind those of my contemporaries at other airlines. My whine and moan for the day.
Don't you think your "peers" at at USair, American, Ethiopian, Comair, Skybus, Legend, National, DHL, and Swaziland Air would be envious of you?
12-12-2012 | 08:13 PM
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Mainline block hours are going up. That requires additional flight attendant and pilots. We were more overstaffed then the flight attendants and have the long term mil leave pilots coming back so they did not hire the 100 or so pilots they were considering this fall. The hiring will come. Why is that so hard for everyone to believe that the block hours are increasing?
However, I would like to see good times, I would like to progress and I would like to break out of the bottom 15% of of the seniority list. Yes I know I have only been employed with Delta for 12 years and should be grateful to have a job. I actually had a SLC rep tell me that within the last 6 months. I found it to be an interesting message.
12-12-2012 | 08:13 PM
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34 minutes to go until Age-65 zero hour!
I was 10 numbers away from holding a solid regular line every month on the 767 when it passed 5 years ago and projected to move up in category enough to cross the threshold. Age 65 knocked me back 17 numbers on the projection and back into reserve.
Granted a lot of things have happened since then as well, but that was the first blow of backsliding.
I was 10 numbers away from holding a solid regular line every month on the 767 when it passed 5 years ago and projected to move up in category enough to cross the threshold. Age 65 knocked me back 17 numbers on the projection and back into reserve.
Granted a lot of things have happened since then as well, but that was the first blow of backsliding.
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